Running most of our workloads on AWS and Azure right now, but I've seen a lot of headlines saying companies in the EU are starting to look for ways to ditch Amazon, Google, and Microsoft cloud services due to security and sovereignty concerns. I've looked at OVHcloud and Deutsche Telekom's offerings but the scale and feayures seem way behind the big US players. Has anyone seen serious movement from large enterprises actually migrating off the big three? Is this mostly political pressure or are there technical reasons to switch now?
Companies in the EU are starting to look for ways to ditch Amazon, Google, and Microsoft cloud services. How real is this shift?
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They really cant ditch it..
Not yet, but they will increasingly migrate to Neo Clouds like Nebius for AI workloads and in more generic services in the long run.
it took the american firms years to create the infra and the lock-in is strong. I’d expect it to take like a decade for a real Euro alternative to gain ground. also dont forget the European business environment is just less attractive, so who really wants to do this except for governments who have no idea?
Probably not realistic. I don’t imagine there being a cloud provider similar to AWS, GCP, or Azure but in the EU due to how much EU regulators seem to go after tech companies.
The shift is real. But big changes takes time. Startups almost never use US servers due to having to be gdpr compliant for example. And more and more who are currently using US based servers or systems are changing.
Europe doesn’t really have many alternatives and not on the scale of the big boys. The risk is with America being unreliable that Europe will spend on developing their alternatives to move away.
Might take a decade but if the risk is that America could pull the plug then the time and money will be considered worth it.
So while people might laugh about it in the short term, long term they may not be. This also excludes them moving to other options, although doubt anyone would want to shift to the likes of China mid term.
There is no serious move away from the big 3.
I believe there has been some push from France and/or Germany to use an open-sourced alternative to Windows or some other tech product, but it doesn’t seem to be really serious.
There have been efforts in the past to ditch Windows for Linux based alternatives but I’m not sure if it ended working out.
Maybe this time is the right oportunity to start changing that but it will take a lot of time and effort.
I’m from Europe, it’s not going to happen.
US Corporations start and grow due to the massive single market of the US. The market is just instantly huge with a single access point and language.
In Europe, you can’t launch across europe because each country has different laws, unions, workers councils etc as well as stringent regulations at an EU level.
Nebius
Theoretically, it would leave a huge void, but realistically, who will step in? Euro tech companies are nearly non existent.
Probably still have 2-4 years.
They would have to build the infrastructure. Closes sounds like France.
People who think ”the shift” is real have no idea about the real scale of these things.
Migrating is one thing, but for our team, every new project has to focus on EU companies, if it satisfies the requirements, EU will most likely get the contract.
Migrating from AWS takes so long, for most this is 3-4 years of migration, but new stuff can be installed in EU servers from the get go.
As someone managing IT for a small multinational – basically not happening.
CEO’s will not fund transitions without much bigger incentives than some temporary political discomfort.
Can’t imagine any time soon.
yea but ditch… for what else? :l
it’s not real at all lmao
Currently the private sector is betting on ‘waiting it out’ when it comes to the current anti-EU US administration.
EU Public sectors, healthcare, central and local governments are in total panic and will shift away within the next 5 years
A lot of governments already ditched Microsoft on the desktop
it is one thing to move containers, databases and stuff like that to a non US provider, but when it comes to O365 or Google workspace or another product suite where collaboration tools etc is used. Well that is almost a no go..
Necessity is the mother of invention. Will it be easy? Certainly not. Is remaining on US infrastructure feasible over the long-term? Also not.
With what surplus energy?
They don’t have the infra, they don’t have the electricity and they don’t have the scale.
Unless they outsource to Middle East or South America.
Well, when you’ve proven to be an unreliable partner, it will force counties to rethink their option. Anything US based, is now as trustworthy as China or Russia, no body wants to deal with Trump unless they 100% have to. I think if there was just tariffs, it wouldn’t be that big of a deal, but when you think you have a deal for 10%, then it becomes 15%, or 30% and then back to 15%, it’s hardly negotiating in good faith.
They have no domestic alternatives. They can either use these services or do the equivalent of operating without electricity as Europe has regulated and taxed itself out of being a relevant place.
We’ve been checking shifting to a European solution at my last employer in Germany for security reasons after feeling that Amazon, Google and Microsoft (where we have been) are not trustworthy. All three had issues with European security and data privacy regulations in the past. There was not political pressure, that was just risk management.
We also skipped a used case with AWS because we feared abuse of our data and technical specifications of our goods.
Russians do good things hehe
This will happen about the same time the U.S. starts producing t-shirts again.
Yes, some actually are. I’ve seen clauses in agreements lately that data cannot reside in a data center owned by an American company.
Haha Europe is dam fail in tech and uncompetitive as an economy.
What they are good at is masking every politics as liberal movement and rights.
Let’s see.
Maybe Chinese cloud like AliCloud or something?