Last post, I had a $2.1M account with $1M in gains.
In 6 months, the account grew another +$470K so I'm at +$1.5M of total gains since my first post 5 and a half years ago. I did withdraw $250K to buy a new home, so the account sits at $2.3M.
Ending – Net Deposits = +$1.5M in gains
That's a +27% compound return a year for nearly 6 years. I continue to crush regular, r/stock boomer index fund portfolios:
I (blue) am +263% while stocks (green) are barely +100% over that time period
The account has $7.3M assets and $5M borrowed in options so that's 3.2x leverage. I'm under-leveraged, I know. The prudent and correct thing is to borrow another $2M and get back to the optimal 4x leverage. I haven't decided.
Summary:
– Borrow 2-4x the value of your account on margin.
– Dump it all in a multi-asset, diversified portfolio. For the stock sleeve, I prefer smart-beta funds due to their higher expected returns. The goal is maximum compound returns.
Positions: Stocks, bonds, mutual funds and $5M borrowed in Box Spread Options
Q&A
1) When will you de-lever/pay-off the debt/liquidate?
– Never. This maximizes returns. Why do anything but this?
2) What's it like for your account to grow +$1M per year?
– It's cool, you should try it. Save what you can, invest it like this and give it time. I started with just $20K in 2017.
3) Are you a billionaire with a bunch of assets elsewhere?
– I have every penny riding in here. Any other place it could be in will earn me less than 27% per year so why do that?
I borrowed $5.7M to invest. Should I borrow more?
byu/Dry-Drink inwallstreetbets
Posted by Dry-Drink
29 Comments
Holy shit
🙄
Bear markets?
Leverage works both ways….. Ever had a margin call?
Go to casino gamble everything on red
Trees grow to heaven
This man has no idea what he is doing. Let him continue
Where are you getting so much long term leverage? I need to leverage more only at 2x now
Sure
This is by far the biggest piece of nonsense I’ve seen in 2025 on r/wallstreetbets.
https://preview.redd.it/64l29q965o4g1.png?width=200&format=png&auto=webp&s=7f052552e545447ea69e76907cf0961a89b1dba1
the rule of thumb is to borrow $10M and dump all the money in Tesla and get overnight rich.
I refuse to believe anyone with access to that much money is asking Reddit for help. Fuck off and do it yourself.
The day of reckoning is coming, its one margin call away and you will be ABSOLUTELY crying about why you did not liquidate
I look forward to the loss porn
i have a question sir – why don’t you fuck off from the market and retire?
Can you please marry me? I‘ll be stay at home hubby.
Me: How retarded is this?
ChatGPT: 8/10. In short: it looks like genius on paper, but in reality, it’s a high-probability financial disaster masquerading as skill.
Wtf is OPs post history.
https://preview.redd.it/k050oe1l6o4g1.png?width=2561&format=png&auto=webp&s=ff246f52bf0d850a8627ef4fe7978eb495f2b009
I can tell it is bothering you, that you haven’t borrowed more, so I fully support you, you should definitely borrow a lot more. Do you really wanna be the guy who didnt borrow enough money when he was already up a couple of mil?
You should use more leverage. Go for 5x
Don’t get me wrong, I’m a loss porn guy, but I usually skip this part
Lol, you are leveraging 3.2x to underperform a 2x leveraged S&P 500 etf (+ 291% in the same timeframe)
Edit:
https://www.justetf.com/at/etf-profile.html?isin=LU0411078552#uebersicht
I think you are risking way too much for this return.
Edit2: its even 309% in USD for the 2x leveraged S&P ETF.
This is some pre-gamestore wsb content
Where did you get the money from?
Holy fuck, we are in a bubble
Step 1: 20k
Step 2: Leverage X4
Step 3: Millionaire
Easy enough, what could go wrong?
You should start a fund and do it as your main activity with other people’s money.
Have you got any equity in your house? Might be worth getting a second mortgage
https://preview.redd.it/tugycgnv7o4g1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=684d1f44bc56fdadd8a316fff46528e15dedcd76