Hello,
Considering leaving my state pension teaching job for a job with a 401k. I have worked 12 years so my pension is vested. The 401k position is 100% match up to 2.5% after one year of work. I would be making approximately $10,000 more in the 401k position. Healthcare would not change as I’m on my husbands insurance. Thoughts? Is this a good move?
*My pension tier is awful, to retire with full benefits I will need to have 30 years of service and be 65 years old.
Reasons for leaving : burnout, unhappy, no support from admin
Thank you!!!
Leave state pension job for 401k?
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Do you mind sharing which state pension system it is? That could be helpful.
Are you a teacher in NY? 30/65 sounds like it. Depends on your age because that match isnt anything fantastic
2.5% match isn’t worth switching.
The match is small enough to be a non-factor. Focus on the 10k and job satisfaction. I’d probably leave for the 10k.
> Reasons for leaving : burnout, unhappy, no support from admin
Leave the job with a state pension for the job with the 401k. Those reasons you listed are good enough.
I had a government pension job and left for the private sector because the government job wasn’t enjoyable anymore. I’m also vested in the pension system, so I just need to file paperwork when I turn 55 to begin collecting the government pension. I’ll start pulling from my 401k once I actually retire (I assume in my 60s).
Leave it and keep both. You are vested, so when you’re retired you will receive a pension and the proceeds of the 401K you’ll be contributing to from now on.
Also, some pension packages come with health care. Mine does, meaning, when I retire I will get money and health care. If I take my money with me, which I can do if I leave my job, I lose the healthcare. Do you also get health care as part of your pension retirement package? If so, it’s to your benefit to keep it.
Just remember – for every 50k you take per year from a 401k following the 4% rule – you need 1.2 million dollars in your account.
You leave out a ton of necessary information:
1. State
2. What will your pension be with only 12 years? What would it be if you stayed and finished?
3. How much do you currently have in retirement accounts?
4. Age now, since you said you could retire at 65?
For example, using the accepted average rate of return of 8% over the next 20 years – if you have 50k already saved and are 40 and want to retire at 63 in order to pull out 50k/year – you need to save 13500/year (about 1125/month) into your 401k from 40 to 63 and that will put you at 950k or so.
So, at this rate you’d be losing 3500/year of salary for the new job and have less money to live on in retirement assuming a 50k pension.
65 years is too old to wait for full benefits!
I don’t think this is financially that much better or worse. In other words, this isn’t a financial decision. If your current job is terrible and this one seems like a better place to work, go for it.
Pensions are really just annuities. You basically always have the option of a lump sum distribution into an IRA.
Whether you should leave a job depends on your day to day stress, the total compensation (not just pay, not just retirement, but all of it including days off), commute, lifestyle etc
I left my job that had a pension due to residency requirements that made me live under an airport. Quality of life is way better. Making less money now, but the future looks bright.
A pension is an imaginary carrot dangling in front of you.
Do what is right for you.
My sister-in-law was TPAF-5 and quit. You could only retire w/ 30 years of service, but then there was a 3% reduction for every year under the age of 65 that you left. She was hired at 22 y/o and simply gave up after realizing that she would have to work for 43 years to get a full pension.
I think her “anticipated” retirement amount non inflation adjusted was 40k at 65 y/o but leaving early would have reduced it by 39% to 24k.
Based on her stories and the numbers she and I worked thru – I’d just quit and find a different job.
Bruh. You get a ridiculous number of days off per year as a teacher. You could easily make more than the 401K and 10K diff if you do a tiny bit of tutoring. Buckle down and be grateful you are not in corporate America where tenure does not exist.