Republicans will burn this country to the ground before they admit they got played.
seriousbangs on
Dangit, Reddit’s broke, I’m getting stories from 10 years ago…
ThaPhilosopherKing on

Blastoplast on
Some gems from Whitehouse.gov:
“Your prescription drugs will come way, way down and, under this policy, the prices of many drugs will be slashed by 300, 400 even 500% starting this month at the Trumprx.gov.”
“The government is going to pay the money directly to you. It goes to you, and then you take the money and buy your own healthcare… the big insurance companies lose and the people of our country win.”
“I want to end this flagrant scam and put extra money straight into the healthcare savings account in your name, and you go out and buy your own healthcare, and you’ll make a great deal, you’ll get better healthcare for less money—that way you can choose the care that is right for your family.”
Still only the vaguest explanation on how this is supposed to work, where the money is going to come from for these government sponsored HSAs (how is this any different than ACA subsidies?), let alone slashing the price of drugs by… 500%!
LockNo2943 on
I can’t wait til I finally get to complain about trumpcare nonstop for the next decade.😈
>titled the Great Healthcare Plan
Ugh, I just can’t even anymore. Named like a kindergartener would.
jb4647 on
Here’s the key difference MAGA keep missing:
**The Affordable Care Act is a functioning system.
This White House document is a list of slogans.**
They are not even operating at the same level.
—
## How the ACA actually works
The ACA is not one idea. It is a **multi-layered regulatory and financing framework** designed to stabilize insurance markets while expanding coverage.
It does several hard things at once:
### 1. It creates a regulated insurance market
– Guaranteed issue: insurers must cover people regardless of pre-existing conditions
– Community rating: limits how much insurers can vary premiums by age
– Essential Health Benefits: minimum coverage standards so plans cannot quietly become junk
This is the foundation. Without it, the rest collapses.
—
### 2. It stabilizes risk pools
The ACA explicitly addresses adverse selection.
It does this through:
– Subsidies tied to income
– Cost-sharing reductions
– Market rules that discourage cherry-picking healthy people
– Risk adjustment among insurers
This is boring, technical, and absolutely necessary. Insurance markets fail without it.
—
### 3. It uses subsidies, not vouchers
ACA subsidies are:
– Income-based
– Tied to benchmark plans
– Automatically adjusted
– Designed to scale with medical inflation
This matters because healthcare costs are not static. Vouchers are.
—
### 4. It integrates with existing systems
The ACA does not pretend Medicare, Medicaid, and employer insurance do not exist.
Instead it:
– Expands Medicaid where states allow
– Preserves employer-sponsored insurance
– Coordinates eligibility across programs
– Uses federal enforcement through HHS and CMS
This is why it actually functions nationally.
—
### 5. It is enforceable law
The ACA is:
– Thousands of pages of statute and regulation
– Backed by budgets
– Enforced by agencies
– Litigated, stress-tested, and amended over 15 years
It survives because it is built to survive.
—
## What the White House document does instead
Now compare that to what this document offers.
—
### 1. No market structure
There is:
– No guaranteed issue framework
– No explanation of pre-existing conditions
– No definition of minimum coverage
– No mechanism to prevent insurers from dumping sick patients
You cannot say “choice” and skip market rules. That is how pre-ACA markets failed.
—
### 2. Vouchers without guardrails
“Send the money directly to the people” is a voucher system.
What is missing:
– How voucher amounts are calculated
– Whether they adjust for age or illness
– How they keep premiums from rising faster than vouchers
– How risk pools remain viable
This is the exact problem the ACA was designed to solve.
—
### 3. No risk management at all
The document does not mention:
– Adverse selection
– Risk adjustment
– Reinsurance
– Enrollment stability
This omission alone disqualifies it as a serious proposal.
—
### 4. Transparency without enforcement
The ACA already tried transparency.
It paired it with:
– Medical loss ratio rules
– Rate review
– Federal enforcement authority
This document:
– Demands disclosures
– Provides no enforcement
– Ignores how insurers game transparency rules
Posting numbers does not change incentives.
—
### 5. Drug pricing without legal reality
The ACA uses:
– Statutory authority
– CMS rulemaking
– Negotiation within defined programs
This document:
– Repeats MFN talking points
– Ignores prior court failures
– Explains nothing about implementation scope
Wishing prices lower is not policy.
—
## The core difference
The ACA answers hard questions:
– Who pays?
– Who enforces?
– Who is protected?
– What happens when things go wrong?
This document avoids those questions entirely.
—
## Bottom line
The ACA is flawed, complex, and imperfect.
But it is:
– Structured
– Enforceable
– Integrated
– Designed to survive reality
This White House document is:
– Aspirational
– Vague
– Non-operational
– Structurally incomplete
They are not alternatives.
One is governance.
The other is messaging.
Bigcouchpotato1 on
I don’t know why they don’t just change the name of the ACA to TrumpCare, declare victory and go home.
DolphinsBreath on
>…titled the Great Healthcare Plan
Ah, that’s the problem, they didn’t let him add TRUMP anywhere in the name.
_FIRECRACKER_JINX on
Wow… At a time where an AI can write a decent healthcare plan for anyone willing to put in the promoting time …
EnfantTerrible68 on
Alarmed? Who expected anything more than concepts of a plan?
Independent-Way-8054 on
Fuck this shit give us universal healthcare
Away-Combination-162 on
It’s all bullshit from him. Everything he says and his regime
Mo_Tzu on
Now THAT was a hellishly long two weeks.
kingkron52 on
Because there is no plan
ktaktb on
Sounds like A LOT of regulations.
Doesnt he need to delete 10 regulations for every new one? Seems like lead is back on the menu and fingers and toes in our ground turkey and pork (who can afford beef amirite?)
bananatimemachine on
Written in sharpie on the back of a Big Mac wrapper.
ShotFish7 on
No detail because there is no intention of doing anything
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Still stuck on concepts of a plan, then?
CNN never gets enough

Republicans will burn this country to the ground before they admit they got played.
Dangit, Reddit’s broke, I’m getting stories from 10 years ago…

Some gems from Whitehouse.gov:
“Your prescription drugs will come way, way down and, under this policy, the prices of many drugs will be slashed by 300, 400 even 500% starting this month at the Trumprx.gov.”
“The government is going to pay the money directly to you. It goes to you, and then you take the money and buy your own healthcare… the big insurance companies lose and the people of our country win.”
“I want to end this flagrant scam and put extra money straight into the healthcare savings account in your name, and you go out and buy your own healthcare, and you’ll make a great deal, you’ll get better healthcare for less money—that way you can choose the care that is right for your family.”
Still only the vaguest explanation on how this is supposed to work, where the money is going to come from for these government sponsored HSAs (how is this any different than ACA subsidies?), let alone slashing the price of drugs by… 500%!
I can’t wait til I finally get to complain about trumpcare nonstop for the next decade.😈
>titled the Great Healthcare Plan
Ugh, I just can’t even anymore. Named like a kindergartener would.
Here’s the key difference MAGA keep missing:
**The Affordable Care Act is a functioning system.
This White House document is a list of slogans.**
They are not even operating at the same level.
—
## How the ACA actually works
The ACA is not one idea. It is a **multi-layered regulatory and financing framework** designed to stabilize insurance markets while expanding coverage.
It does several hard things at once:
### 1. It creates a regulated insurance market
– Guaranteed issue: insurers must cover people regardless of pre-existing conditions
– Community rating: limits how much insurers can vary premiums by age
– Essential Health Benefits: minimum coverage standards so plans cannot quietly become junk
This is the foundation. Without it, the rest collapses.
—
### 2. It stabilizes risk pools
The ACA explicitly addresses adverse selection.
It does this through:
– Subsidies tied to income
– Cost-sharing reductions
– Market rules that discourage cherry-picking healthy people
– Risk adjustment among insurers
This is boring, technical, and absolutely necessary. Insurance markets fail without it.
—
### 3. It uses subsidies, not vouchers
ACA subsidies are:
– Income-based
– Tied to benchmark plans
– Automatically adjusted
– Designed to scale with medical inflation
This matters because healthcare costs are not static. Vouchers are.
—
### 4. It integrates with existing systems
The ACA does not pretend Medicare, Medicaid, and employer insurance do not exist.
Instead it:
– Expands Medicaid where states allow
– Preserves employer-sponsored insurance
– Coordinates eligibility across programs
– Uses federal enforcement through HHS and CMS
This is why it actually functions nationally.
—
### 5. It is enforceable law
The ACA is:
– Thousands of pages of statute and regulation
– Backed by budgets
– Enforced by agencies
– Litigated, stress-tested, and amended over 15 years
It survives because it is built to survive.
—
## What the White House document does instead
Now compare that to what this document offers.
—
### 1. No market structure
There is:
– No guaranteed issue framework
– No explanation of pre-existing conditions
– No definition of minimum coverage
– No mechanism to prevent insurers from dumping sick patients
You cannot say “choice” and skip market rules. That is how pre-ACA markets failed.
—
### 2. Vouchers without guardrails
“Send the money directly to the people” is a voucher system.
What is missing:
– How voucher amounts are calculated
– Whether they adjust for age or illness
– How they keep premiums from rising faster than vouchers
– How risk pools remain viable
This is the exact problem the ACA was designed to solve.
—
### 3. No risk management at all
The document does not mention:
– Adverse selection
– Risk adjustment
– Reinsurance
– Enrollment stability
This omission alone disqualifies it as a serious proposal.
—
### 4. Transparency without enforcement
The ACA already tried transparency.
It paired it with:
– Medical loss ratio rules
– Rate review
– Federal enforcement authority
This document:
– Demands disclosures
– Provides no enforcement
– Ignores how insurers game transparency rules
Posting numbers does not change incentives.
—
### 5. Drug pricing without legal reality
The ACA uses:
– Statutory authority
– CMS rulemaking
– Negotiation within defined programs
This document:
– Repeats MFN talking points
– Ignores prior court failures
– Explains nothing about implementation scope
Wishing prices lower is not policy.
—
## The core difference
The ACA answers hard questions:
– Who pays?
– Who enforces?
– Who is protected?
– What happens when things go wrong?
This document avoids those questions entirely.
—
## Bottom line
The ACA is flawed, complex, and imperfect.
But it is:
– Structured
– Enforceable
– Integrated
– Designed to survive reality
This White House document is:
– Aspirational
– Vague
– Non-operational
– Structurally incomplete
They are not alternatives.
One is governance.
The other is messaging.
I don’t know why they don’t just change the name of the ACA to TrumpCare, declare victory and go home.
>…titled the Great Healthcare Plan
Ah, that’s the problem, they didn’t let him add TRUMP anywhere in the name.
Wow… At a time where an AI can write a decent healthcare plan for anyone willing to put in the promoting time …
Alarmed? Who expected anything more than concepts of a plan?
Fuck this shit give us universal healthcare
It’s all bullshit from him. Everything he says and his regime
Now THAT was a hellishly long two weeks.
Because there is no plan
Sounds like A LOT of regulations.
Doesnt he need to delete 10 regulations for every new one? Seems like lead is back on the menu and fingers and toes in our ground turkey and pork (who can afford beef amirite?)
Written in sharpie on the back of a Big Mac wrapper.
No detail because there is no intention of doing anything