If the administration actually gets to a place where Greenland is up for purchase, how do you all think the markets will react?
1) They will have to finance this thing somehow. Obviously, they can't just issue pure US debt given the political liability around the debt quantum. Bessent has signaled they could go the path of using a Sovereign Wealth Fund to finance the transaction, likely by stuffing student loans, federal land rights, or other assets and securitizing them out to investors via "Greenland bonds."
2) Those bonds will have to trade higher than standard US debt given the risk premium and novelty of the structuring (not to mention the depth of the market). Selling, say, $1-2T of these new instruments would flood the market with higher rate debt, driving prices of existing, lower-rate bond portfolios down right off the bat. There goes the bond market.
3) The higher rates would lead to crowding out, as large institutional investors decide that holding high-rate bonds with a (basically) guaranteed return is worth more than holding equities with less certain returns. Institutional investors would sell off equities to buy larger bond portfolios (this would offset the impact of #2, but not on a 1:1 basis). Equity markets would fall as a result.
4) The fact that these new pseudo-government bonds would be issued at a higher rate effectively increases the 'risk-free,' i.e., discount rate of the overall economy. If you were evaluating an equity's fundamental value, this increased discount rate would result in the equity being worth less than before. This is a second factor that would push the equity markets down, combined with #3.
4.1) The Fed could step in here and perform QE to cap rates, but in any case, this is akin to the US printing money to fund the purchase of Greenland as opposed to financing it. This would just hyper-charge the next point as the Fed creates new money to buy the excess bonds.
5) Once the funds are raised and the government actually sends out the cash to Denmark/Greenland, it's effectively injected the global economy with $1-2T of debt, strongly raising the likelihood of inflation. Remember it's also pledged what were previously government cash flows to investors (student loans, land rights, etc.), which will create a cash flow hole for the US government that will need to be filled with either taxes, budget cuts, or everyone's favorite, more debt – i.e., more inflation, higher debt-to-GDP ratio, higher rates, and more equity (and likely bond market) depression.
5.1) A small, nuanced point, but the way the US will likely need to structure these bonds to make them marketable to investors will require them to retain an equity tranche in the securitization vehicle, which, if priced incorrectly would essentially 'create money,' also driving up money supply and possibly long-term inflation.
6) Higher rates, greater inflation, and depressed equity/bond markets leaves one trade left for investors, i.e. a debasement trade in hard assets like gold/silver. Of course, gold/silver might crash at first as investors flock to the dollar/sell off for cash (won't get into emerging market dynamics here, but you can guess), but eventually the inflationary effects will get priced in and drive demand for the assets.
Takeaway) This is highly speculative, and the future is anything but predictable. But the truth is that the US probably doesn't have the firepower to finance this thing, and the fact that any ROI on Greenland would take years to manifest implies there's no way out of buying the island without jacking up rates and inflation (which itself jacks up rates). I think the winning strategy here is all about timing a buy and sell, likely staying out of the capital markets until it becomes apparent that inflation is being priced in, at which point bond markets will have corrected and hard assets like gold/silver should begin to climb. High rates risk Fed action, and even if the Fed does bring rates down, any subsequent QE-induced inflation stands to depress bond/equity valuations in this type of environment.
Note 1) I do think a lot of this hinges on the ROI of buying Greenland. If it turns out that the Island can pay for the debt and generate excess returns in a timely manner, i.e., essentially immediately, then perhaps there is no excess inflation from the US printing debt to cap rates/covering cash-flow holes. I do think, though, regardless, the effect of issuing high-rate bonds to pull cash-flows forward and injecting the global economy with that capital has the capacity to trigger this general flow of events. Plus, and ROI from Greenland would take decades, well after the inflation has sunk in.
Note 2) There is the possibility that the political crisis this has/will cause a deterioration in trade between the EU and the US, which might limit the effects of a capital injection into the EU on the US economy – but their interlinkage is so strong, I doubt there can ever be a true wall keeping inflation east of the Atlantic.
The Greenland Rug Pull: Nuking the Markets for a Glacier
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I’ll save it to read later.
Trump will just say he owns it and as usual nobody will do anything about it.
Oh yes- ‘this time is different’.
Bro- you are too emotional to be investing.
Nothing is going to happen. Unfortunately.
I would love it so I can buy some stuff on the cheap. TACO trade is alive and well 🌮
that’s a cool story, but EU will never agree to sell Greenland. Most likely outcome if trump keeps pushing is the whole world will dump US treasuries and EU will put sanctions on US (yes, this will hurt EU a lot, but they don’t have any choice). So I kinda agree that market is fucked if US seriously attempts to get Greenland, but it will happen in a much more straightforward way.
They won’t. It has no strategic value to the US.
You can’t buy what is not for sale. There is no possibility whatsoever that Greenland is ever sold to the US. This may as well be an analysis of what happens of martians invade.
A more reasonable question is how do the markets respond if the US attempts to invade a sovereign nation, NATO member and ally.
Trump will do like a standard LBO. The US will buy Greenland and Greenland and EU will pay for it through tariffs. At the end, it won’t fully pan out because it is a half baked idea and few years later people will have forgotten about focusing on a new shiny things.
/s (but actually, 50% not).
Who remembers about the Mexico wall? All this money, efforts, political clout for naught. Clearly, it seems the issues have still not been resolved because we are annexing countries now.
normally sovereign wealth funds are funded by surpluses, like in Norway. If you have to issue debt to fund it I don’t think it qualifies as such. Ponzi scheme maybe.
Purchasing Greenland is a ploy to force EU to reduce onerous regulatory restrictions that are designed to target US firms.
When was the last Trump paid his bills?
Is anyone actually talking about buying Greenland?
He’ll put the cash into a Qatari bank, like the Venezuelan Oil sales, so it won’t matter.
My question is what money trump is buying it with and why would anyone in the eu take the deal seriously. Today Greenland next something.
He literally tor up a deal signed 7 months ago. See the problem people will have making a deal with him.
I think past manipulating the markets, the bigger picture is to destabilize NATO, just like Russia wants.
Are you telling me… that trying to buy Greenland might not be a great idea?
Slaps Greenland….couple more oil tankers, and this baby is all ours
This is a non issue. Won’t ever happen.
Watch markets dip 1-2% in the morning then end up + for the day.
He could have just said that he wanted to expand our military presence and signed a contract to start mining all the REE.
MININAL political drama. Less money (versus what Greenland would “cost”. Picks in the ground and Chinese subs gone already.
Sigh.
That said I predict nothing happens.
I thought I was in wallstreetbets when I read this. Highly regarded. Greenland won’t cost a fraction of $1 trillion
Denmark gives Greenland about $600M per year, and that’s about half of Greenland’s budget.
Machado will just gift it to him….
To those saying the EU will never give up Greenland…
It could also be that the EU gives Greenland up in order to live another day as an entity. The EU survival is existential for the individual countries in 2026, and collectively they do not have the ability to wage a conventional war with the US. An economic war? Yes, for sure.
By the way, only Denmark has to consent to a sale and not the EU. The Greenlanders are legally irrelevant (not morally or ethically) as Greenland’s residents are subjects of the Danish crown. They don’t have agency here.
Moreover NATO Article 3 requires Denmark – not the EU – to defend Greenland against ANY attacker. The legal weakness here is Denmark is incapable of doing so. Other NATO members are obligated to come to the aid of another EU country under attack. Though it’s not legally clear whether territories count under this treaty. Treaty rules can and have been selectively enforced in the past.
Trump will attempt to exploit this. Don’t confuse what should or shouldn’t happen with what can happen.
Why does Europe want Greenland so bad?
Interesting analysis, first of a kind I’ve read today. Rare earth and oil would take years to exploit. For the immediate ROI, is there anything that could be done to recoup investment?
It’s Greenland. Won’t be that expensive. Everything is not the end of the world as we know it.
Can we buy him a golden certificate that said he own everyone and everything forever and ever. And hire 25 people to chant for him everyday he wakes up you are the best, you are king of the world. Everyday until his term is up.
I don’t know why this sub denies the possibility. Is it the same group ppl saying brexit is just a show and will never be a reality ?
The administration has talked about giving every Greenland adult $10,000. That’s like $400mil which is a tiny amount.