Is Trump destroying the Western alliance? Will Europe ally with China?

Trying to curtail their devious nature with hollow terms & phrases , obviously Bidet was as much an imperialist ; just slightly more crafty & subtle [emphasis on 'slightly"]

Nobody ever goes to jail it never stops. Chris bollyn

What if the US, Russia and China have secretly agreed to put all other countries on the menu? Welcome to Oceania.

All the west knows is war , invasion death destruction, the rest of the world should form closer economic military ties and recognise that the west are the enemy of the rest of the world.

Nato is based in Canada not America the idea of nato is detect the threat over Canada and stop it before it reaches America. It like geography math and shit I get it America is stupid. Nato will keep on just fine without the divided states of dumberica

The U.S. started ww2 by provoking Germany.

true.

there is 32 countries in NATO USA cover 16% of NATO if USA wants to leave then it's up to USA we other 31 countries countinue in NATO

Such bad takes. France has a considerable weapons industry independent of the US.

Plus Europe owns trillions of US debt and in a scenario of being put under stress by the US, it can sell that debt and sink the US economically in a week. Plus check out the Bazooka trade anti coercion instrument the EU threatened the US with. It allows the EU to block EU companies trading with the US. So eg ASML, a Dutch company with a world monopoly re EUV's ultra violet lithography vital for AI tech, smartphones, future tech innovation. ASLM is the only company worldwide with this expertise and knowledge. Plus look at international shipping containers, EU owns 44 percent of the market, the US less than one percent, plus shipping companies in general re trade the EU is way ahead.

Plus re energy the EU is concentrating on green energy and renewables & has huge potential re this sector, which is the future of energy.

So, yes the US can say the EU is dependent on the US, but the US is dependent on the EU too & the EU can seriously damage the US if it has to.

Plus the stuff re monarchies? Many EU countries have monarchies and every country in the world is hypocritical re dealing with countries, not just Europe.

And re trade dependency. You should check out re Brexit how the EU State companies altered trade with the UK in a very short space of time.

Eurasia is the way forward. High speed rail, connecting infrastructure green tech and innovation and bringing in Africa too. All these continents connect as landmasses, makes sense to go that way for all involved. And bring in Canada and South America too. We don't need the US. It's an out of control bully and totally undependable.

The US is an unreliable untrustworthy partner and debt ridden. Doesn't matter if a Democrat comes in next time, who's there 4 years after that? Voting for Trump once, the EU could view as a blip, twice, no. It's done, the EU will never trust the US again and forge a different path forward.

LOL and FOAD. Den Norton makes no sense. How could Europe destroy itself when Americans were supplying Nazi Germany?
I can see why Americans have never had Greeks on the talk shows; Greeks would tear Americans to pieces.

Have you noticed that even English speakers like Den Norton struggle to understand their own language? English can make no sense at all, and it’s not about accents. It often feels completely illogical, especially when trying to translate concepts from Greek European history into it. At times, it truly seems impossible. It's important to question the intellectual perspective in academia in the USA, Germany, or the UK. What does having a Mediterranean or Middle Eastern appearance even mean, as if Anglo-American and British English are the only civilisations with blue eyes and blonde hair?

In the UK and the USA. The term “European” often excludes countries in the Near East, Georgia, Armenia, and Cyprus, despite their deep historical ties to the region. In Greek history, Egypt and Mesopotamia are the founders of Western civilisation; [ Politically loaded ] “Europe” is often shorthand for the EU, NATO, or Western liberalism, erasing dissenting or non-aligned states. The idea of Europe as a unified civilizational bloc was forged during the Anglo-British Empire. It makes sense to question the intellectual roots of systems. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, Google, Microsoft, Copilot, and other US-based AI and software from Silicon Valley, since the dominant frameworks influencing AI, academia, and historical narratives are heavily shaped by Anglo-American, Anglo-British, and Franco-German traditions, particularly in philosophy, linguistics, and epistemology.

“Europe,” “Middle East,” “Balkans,” “West” — these are colonial inventions.

None of these terms existed in the way we use them today before the rise of:

• the British Empire

• the French Empire

• the American geopolitical order

These powers renamed the world according to their own worldview.

In Greece, Europe, there is no such word as Balkan.

But in European Greek history, the Balkan Mountains were called by the local Thracian name Haemus. And the Thracian king Haemus was turned into a mountain by Zeus as a punishment, and the mountain has retained his name. The myth relates to a fight between Zeus and the monster/titan Typhon. Zeus injured Typhon with a thunderbolt, and Typhon's blood fell on the mountains, giving them their name. So yes, the name was imposed from outside, and its geographic logic is shaky. Modern real European geographers even reject the idea of a German or Turkish “Balkan Peninsula” because its borders don’t fit the technical definition of a peninsula. The term “Balkan” became popular during the Ottoman Empire’s rule and later during the Balkan Wars and the collapse of Yugoslavia by the US-NATO Germany. It was used to describe a region marked by fragmentation, ethnic diversity, and imperial contestation.

The term “Balkanization” arose in the 20th century, used by the US to describe the breakup of states into smaller, often hostile units—a pejorative that unfairly stigmatises the region. The area typically includes Albania, Bulgaria, Greece, Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, North Macedonia, Montenegro, and parts of Turkey, Romania, and Croatia, depending on the definition. It’s best to avoid using it, since Greece and Serbia have little in common with countries like Turkey, France, the UK, or Germany. The word is a colonial and cartographic construct, not a native term used by the people of the region. It reflects outside perceptions, especially from Western Europe, rather than internal cultural unity. Many locals prefer “Southeast Europe” or identify by their specific ethnic or national heritage instead of “Balkan.”

Plus: In Greek history, there is no such thing as the Middle East; English makes no sense.

The term Middle East is another made-up name by the Imperialist Anglo-British English and Anglo – Americans. It was first used in the 1850s by the British India Office and later popularised by Alfred Thayer Mahan, an American naval strategist, in 1902. Initially, it referred to the area around the Persian Gulf, but over time, its definition expanded to include Western Asia and Egypt. The phrase has been criticised for being Eurocentric, as it defines the region based on its position relative to Europe rather than its own historical or cultural identity. In Greek history, Egypt and Mesopotamia laid the groundwork for Europe, significantly influencing the development of Western culture, governance, and philosophy. Many fundamental elements of European civilisation, including writing, law, and architecture, can be traced back to these ancient societies.

When you go to London, do you say ..I'm going to the "Middle West" When you go to the United States, do you say ..I'm going to the " Far West"..When people say ..I'm going to the Middle East, that's colonialism. That's colonial language. ..The minute I hear Middle East, Balkans, Western Media, Western world, Western values, that's colonial language and history ..

Stop calling it the Western World or Western Media. Stop calling it Western values. The English language makes no sense. And challenge the flattening of “Western” into a monolith. The term is often used carelessly—as if France, Chile, Greece, Serbia, and Canada all share a single worldview, language, or cultural ethos. They don’t. And the assumption that “Western values” are synonymous with English-speaking, liberal capitalist norms is not just lazy—it’s historically and politically loaded.

The Myth of a Unified “West”..

Language diversity: As I said, most of the so-called Western world doesn’t speak English. Spanish, Portuguese, French, German, Italian, Greek, Dutch, and dozens of Indigenous and regional languages are spoken across these nations.

Cultural divergence: Catholic Spain and secular Sweden don’t share the same moral frameworks. Greece’s Orthodox traditions differ sharply from Protestant Northern Europe. Latin American nations have post-colonial legacies that complicate any notion of shared “Western” identity.

Political fractures: NATO members often disagree. EU countries clash over migration, austerity, and sovereignty. The “West” is not a bloc—it’s a contested terrain.

I'm not being incoherent — I'm doing something most people never do. I'm interrogating the entire vocabulary that modern English, modern geopolitics, and modern academia use to describe the world. And I'm right about far more than you realise.

Thank you for reading.

as long the EU rejects cheap russian energy, their whole economy is doomed …

Greece did not need to proclaim its significance; its legacy speaks with a voice older than the nations that challenge it. While the United States, Canadian, Britain, and Germany crowned themselves the leaders of the “Western world,” Greece remained steady, rooted in the bedrock where the West was first imagined, shaped, and named.

The modern powers carried themselves with certainty, but their authority rested on foundations they inherited, not foundations they created. Greece did not confront them with force, nor with spectacle. It confronted them with something far more enduring: the memory of origins. The memory of a civilization that forged the vocabulary of politics, the architecture of reason, and the very idea of citizenship.

When the moment of comparison arrived, Greece did not rise to meet them; it allowed them to stand beside it. And in that simple act, the imbalance became undeniable. The nations that had dismissed Greece as small or fragile suddenly found themselves overshadowed by a legacy that has shaped continents, languages, and the human mind itself.

Their certainty wavered. Their narratives thinned. Their claims to cultural authority dissolved in the presence of a civilization that has survived conquests, empires, crises, and centuries — yet still stands, still teaches, still defines.

In the end, they stepped back humbled — not by defeat, but by recognition. Greece had not argued. It had reminded. It reminded them that the West does not begin in their capitals, nor in their institutions, nor in their alliances. It begins where it always has: in the stones of the Acropolis, in the dialogues that shaped thought, in the courage of citizens who first imagined freedom.

No modern power can eclipse that. They can only acknowledge it, and in doing so, remember where the West truly begins.

Good show

I agree. These political managerial classes work for the same interests. It's probably nothing more than political theater for the MSM to gaslight the majority to give the people a sense of national pride. But like always, actions will speak louder than words.

Trump is the best salesman BRICS could ask for.

Who would want to buy those debts?

He's already destroyed whatever was left of NATO after Afghanistan

The U.S.A.'s China Derangement Syndrome is pathetic and sad.

China should not trust the europeans. They are still working with the u.s. to destroy China, if they can do all the foolish economic blunders in destroying their economy and sending their people into poverty. It would be easy for them to stab China in the back.

Terrific, Ben. Thank you so much. Every podcast is super info for us.

The European and Japanese Imperialists didn’t “destroy each other” they tried to cripple/destroy the socialist USSR and PRC and got massacred in the process

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America should never have been a part of NATO. Why should we to war with someone for attacking Europe when we are on the other side of the globe? We would be a great nation if we were not so concerned with dominating the entire world. China has become a super power by building bridges, not by tearing them down. They mind their own business and do not get into the affairs of other nations outside of their region unlike the U.S. In 20 years China will be the world's example on how to become a super power with soft power.

The US couldn't force the EU to adopt this trade deal. They could just refuse and make friends with both Russia and China. Idiots! The solution is simple!!!!