My spouse and I (late 30s) just learned we’re receiving a substantial windfall with some specific investment options. I’d appreciate your thoughts on our situation. 

    Pre-windfall

    • Spouse 1: Unable to work
    • Spouse 2: 110k, saving 21% in a 401k
    • Cash: 85k
    • Retirement accts: 300k in the following
      • Roth:182k
      • 401k: 35
      • Trad IRA: 83k
      • Retirement account assets are in index funds, mix of US and intl equities. 
    • House: 150k and 15yrs left on mortgage interest = 4%; mortgage = ~1100/mo; not counting as part of our FIRE number but valued at about 250k
    • Spend: Average of 72k/year over the last 4 years, including healthcare (~8000/yr and mortgage), excluding health insurance and taxes
      • We’d prefer to spend more

    Windfall: 3.75m (fully untaxed)

    • We have the option to put some portion of this in a tax-exempt annuity, so the payouts would not be taxed either. I know annuities are typically not recommended, but I couldn’t find any discussions that included untaxed payouts. 
    • Ideally, we’d put this decision off, but we can’t do that and retain the tax exemption

    Goals

    • Spend: We want to increase our spending to around 90k, excluding health care. We might not end up spending this much, but it will be nice to try it out. 
    • Home: We need to either do some work on our home or move. Either way, will pay it off immediately and reserve some of the windfall as cash. 
    • RE: Spouse 2 (me) would like to RE in June 2026. Unless work becomes a lot more enjoyable now that we’re FI? Here’s why:
      • I’ve been at my job 1.5 yrs, and making it past the 2 year mark might make it easier to go back to work if I need to later. (I think this would only be necessary for health insurance, so I wouldn’t be looking for a high salary)
      • We’ll be able to use COBRA through 2027, before starting the ACA in 2028. (I know COBRA is not usually the cheapest option, but we get to the OOPM yearly and don’t want to stay under 4x FPL, so in our case it makes sense)
    • Child: We don’t have kids, and now they seem like an option. So it’s a possibility, but I think we’d still aim for them same spend. 

    Option 1: Including untaxed annuity, in 3 phases starting in 2026: 

    Asset allocation

    • 150k to pay off house
    • 1m into a 20 yr fixed annuity that pays out 74k/yr 
      • This puts us under 4x FPL in case that becomes necessary to get healthcare, but we won’t be trying to keep our income that low.
      • I’m thinking this would function like a bond, reducing SORR risk
      • The options here are flexible. We could get one that is guaranteed for 20 years then pays out to life expectancy, put in a different amount, or get a similar product that is tied to the S&P 500. We can also change the length and principle.
    • .5m in bonds in a taxable account
    • 1.75m in stocks, 300k in retirement accounts as noted above and the rest in a taxable brokerage (index funds, split between US and Int’l)
    • .4m in HYSA or money market, for house upgrades and lumpy life upgrades (car). This is probably excessive, but feels safe? Could always put it in the brokerage later
    • Starting in 2026, we’ll be able to put 19k/year into an ABLE account with no work requirement and tax-free growth

    Phase 1 (years 1 and 2)

    • Spouse 1: FIREd
    • Spouse 2: Continues to work until June 2026, max retirement accounts (401k, IRAs for both spouses, 19k to ABLE; no access to mega backdoor Roth)
    • Use employer insurance (employer-subsidized then COBRA) through 2027, estimated cost in 2026: 17000, in 2027: 26000
    • Non-healthcare spend: 90k
    • Annuity income: 74k
    • No withdrawal from other accounts, add unspent funds to taxable brokerage. 

    Phase 2 (years 3-20):

    • Healthcare/insurance cost estimate: 45k (adjust yearly for inflation)
    • Non-healthcare spend: 90k (adjust yearly for personal inflation level)
    • Annuity income: 74k (not inflation adjusted)
    • Withdraw from taxable brokerage for required spend (56k or less to meet spending needs, adjusted yearly for inflation). Expect to have room in the LTCG 0% bracket to withdraw an additional 19k to deposit in ABLE account. 
      • Probably won’t need to start withdrawals until year 5 or later, depending on cash reserves

    Phase 3:

    • Annuity is done; begin drawing down tax-advantaged retirement accounts to stay in a low tax bracket, balanced with taxable accounts
    • Get on Medicare at 65

    Option 2: 

    More or less same as above, but the 1m that would go into an annuity into index funds instead. 

    I’d appreciate any advice. What am I missing or not considering? Thank you!

    Advice on windfall with specific investment options and general RE plan
    byu/Queue-Throwaway-165 infinancialindependence



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    3 Comments

    1. mistressbitcoin on

      Just my opinion, but I wouldn’t use being wealthy as an excuse to settle for lower expected returns from an annuity.

    2. RoundTableMaker on

      You better not do that annuity. 74k over 20 years. amounts to 1,480 million and you don’t get your principal back. so you’re trading any growth for about 50% return over 20 years which is dismal on an annual basis. Please do not even think about it. it’s a 2.5% annualized return. You can get more out of a bank account right now. If you don’t want to pay taxes check local muni bonds. I haven’t checked but I am 100% sure they return more than 2.5%. You can put the money in qqqi if you want income and appreciation. Yeah it will be taxed but your money will appreciate and get more income. Over 20 years you’ll make way more out of that. Your best bet is still just putting money in sp500 index fund but it seems like you would like some income. You can buy the index and just sell options against the portfolio.

    3. One-Mastodon-1063 on

      I would not buy the annuity – DO NOT TAKE FINANCIAL, INVESTING, OR TAX ADVICE FROM INSURANCE SALESMEN.

      ~$4m easily covers more than $90k spending, using a very simple, hands off (rebalance 1-2 times a year level of hands off), tax efficient portfolio. You’re not likely to be paying taxes to any material extent married filing jointly covering anywhere near that level of spend. Look up and understand the 0% LT gains + divs tax bracket + standard deduction.

      I would read ALL of the following, treat reading these books and learning and understanding personal finance / investing like your job over the next couple of months. Once you get things set up it will be pretty simple and hands off going forward.

      [The Simple Path to Wealth](https://a.co/d/4E6WiTd)

      [The Little Book of Common Sense Investing](https://a.co/d/7GihT3Z)

      [ERN’s SWR Series](https://earlyretirementnow.com/safe-withdrawal-rate-series/)

      [A Richer Retirement](https://a.co/d/f5JNgpJ)

      [Cody Garrett’s Upcoming Tax Planning in Early Retirement Book](https://a.co/d/dKE4pCG)

      There’s a little bit of contradictory opinions in some of these sources -i.e. A Richer Retirement uses slightly more complicated portfolios and SWRs than those advocated in the first three links … that’s ok, figure out where on that spectrum you are comfortable.

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