I've been trying to make sense of our base RE scenario, and it's a lot.
Here's what I'm trying to figure out. I considered writing a simulation to help find the best plan, but I doubt I'll have time this year in order to do conversions or make other changes.
- Should I consider Roth conversions in the 22 percent bracket now?
- When should I use the 457b?
- Should we be maxing all of this traditional space? (There's a 401a that's mandatory; but 457b/401k are optional or could be Roth.) Assume that we're spending what's not getting contributed below, so conversions and Roth taxes would be paid for from taxable.
- For ACA, it seems like we'd need to cycle 399 and <200 FPL years or do some pre-RE conversions. Any other option?
- Have you done analyses that helped you figure out a priority order or something else that might help me narrow down how many moving parts I have?
Here's our overall setup:
- Year: 2027 (midyear)
- Age: 47 (then)
- 59.5: late 2039
- Child tax credits: 2x to 2036, 1x to 2038
- FAFSA: 1x 2036-2037, 2x 2038-2039
- 529s: 120 percent of present value of CoA.
- ABLE account: likely 1 or 2 (TBD; not yet opened)
- Mortgage: 22k year (P&I); 400k balance
- Taxable: 325k (50k in LTCG)
- Roth: 35k in contributions/conversions (half available now; half in 5-year rules)
- 457b: 210k (~50k more in contributions)
- post-59.5 (traditional): More than needed. Can easily convert 300k and still stay at high probability of 96k expenses (ex-P&I) being fine. (~70k more in non-457b contributions)
- Expense target (ex-housing P&I): 72k
One option we considered is having one of us work part time in a role that would get benefits, defer almost all the comp into a retirement account, and convert up to the top of the 12 percent bracket. That's about an 118k conversion (10k for taxable interest/dividends) for about 6.5k in federal tax. Good deal, but requires work.
I saw this recently, too: https://www.reddit.com/r/financialindependence/comments/1ojmx5d/balancing_aca_subsidy_taxes_and_roth_conversions/
Optimization overload: Roth Conversions, ACA (PTC/CSR), Taxable, 457b, Child Tax Credits, ABLE, FAFSA, 529s, Mortgage.
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