We have companies that have an actual product or service that provides value to their customers and generate billions of dollars of revenue like NOW, ADBE, CRM, etc. that are crashing because AI is going to wipe them out.
We have all AI stocks from hyperscalers to chips and data centers like AMD, GOOG, META, BE, NBIS, crashing because….AI is a bubble and not the big deal it is thought to be.
Like, dude, both can't be true at the same time.
This makes no sense. Can someone smart explain this?
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It seems irrational, but here’s an actual answer: Commodities, IE, products with high competition, command low valuations because competition lowers margins and it is easier for new competitors to come in, increasing risk. All these companies Mag7, software, were not priced like commodities, but as if nobody can compete with them. There is a high risk this is not true in the future.
We know one specific model, Anthropic, is quite ahead in coding tools. However, all these models are somewhat the same, even those open source from China. So they are commoditized.
We know new coding tools seem to make programming easier, SWEs less relevant, any single software less relevant because it’s becoming easier for new software to come online. That makes software commoditized.
The market is currently questioning, the capex of all these new data centers, of all these new coding tools, do not actually make the incumbents better off, what it does is makes AI consumers better off. For example it’s like solving cancer. If a company has solved cancer without any patent protection, all other companies can copy it. However, since all companies can now copy it, and there were previous health solutions relying on cancer not being solved, it actually makes all companies worse off, especially if all these companies are spending trillions copying each other, except for healthcare consumers.
In this analogy, Anthropic, to a lesser extent free Chinese open source, is the one solving cancer, Mag7 are all the companies able to copy the process, the health solutions relying on cancer not being solved are the software companies. The neoclouds are a proxy of Mag 7 without the Mag 7 diversification.
Why would the market reward companies to spend trillions developing a great thing yes, but a great thing that is essentially free and competing with open source?
So who are the beneficiaries? Clearly the beneficiaries are AI consumers, and AI picks and shovels because everyone trying to copy/one up each other increases the use of tools necessary for AI development. This includes the semiconductors, which have obviously outperformed, and anyone currently paying money for things AI can do easier. This also isn’t software, but companies using legacy or past software that AI has made easier, so a lot of main street companies that buy software. Of note are Alphabet and Meta. Alphabet and Meta are actually both in part “AI consumers” because of ads and social media. Social media ecosystems such as Youtube and Instagram, with greater AI usage and consumption, increases engagement and thus increases ad incentive, which is why they have outperformed.
The clear AI consumer in Mag 7, Apple, is the winner in this environment, its the most stable of them, adopting a wait and see approach in the current AI battle, and can simply eventually pick the winner.
You need to have a cookie or something.
Read: https://syntropic.xyz/posts/2026-01-22-the-saas-layer-will-dissolve/
The SAAS model is going to die.
Short term price action has much more to do with liquidity (available money) than anything relating to fundamentals of the company. In times of uncertainty and stock market volatility, people pull their money out of the market, period.
GOOG and META are positive YTD.
I swear when the S&P drops 25% a whole generation of “investors” is going to be jumping off bridges.
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Buy the dip
AI implementation isnt going to be as fast as thought so there isnt going to be as much growth. Capital being pulled back and deployed elsewhere.
You’re never going to get it. If you think you do, you definitely didn’t
Markets and valuation revert to the mean. We are at an extreme (2.3 standard divisions) above the historical trend. This time is not different
It definitely can be both at the same time.