These are the alleged 15-point U.S. framework sent to Iran (via Pakistan), as leaked to major outlets

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    1. dogisgodspeltright on

      So, … a non-starter.

      Plus, the new waves of attacks and stringent denial from Iran, seems to mark an end to this alleged ‘framework’.

    2. Appropriate-Claim385 on

      Netanyahu and the IDF would like a word with you Mr. Orange Circus Clown.

    3. Phase3Investor on

      Trump CANNOT make a deal even if he wanted, not one Iranians would remotely accept

      While reading about how Trump wants to make a deal and is supposedly in negotiations with some anonymous but really important person in Iran, lets remember two points:
      1- Any deal acceptable to Iranians will require some lifting of sanctions at bare minimum
      2- By law, US Presidents CANNOT unilaterally lift sanctions imposed by Congress.

      Remember folks, according to the US Constitution while US Presidents are in charge of diplomatic relations with other nations, ONLY Congress is in charge of economic relations with other nations:

      Article I, Section 8 of the US Constitution explicitly grants Congress the power to “regulate commerce with foreign nations” 

      So ONLY Congress can lift sanctions on Iran (even ask gpt). And Congress is bought & paid for by Israel which is opposed to Iran

      https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/199645-gop-lawmaker-rejects-friedmans-bought-and-paid-for-assertion-on-netanyahu/

      AIPAC pushed heavily for primary and secondary sanctions in Congress starting in mid-1990s when Iran first tried to make a deal with the US:

      https://time.com/archive/6727086/down-goes-the-deal/

      https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/26/world/middleeast/kerry-reminds-congress-netanyahu-advised-us-to-invade-iraq.html

      https://www.wrmea.org/1998-march/trade-and-finance-administration-in-hot-seat-thanks-to-aipac-drafted-iran-libya-sanctions-act.html

      There are different kinds of “sanctions” laws but the MAIN sanctions laws are economic sanctions laws imposed by Congress.
      Congress authorizes Presidents to ENFORCE theses sanctions laws, not to lift them. These sanctions laws give the US President some leeway for example to suspend sanctions for 6 months at a time, but suspending sanctions is not the same as lifting them – and having to do so every 6 months is probably not acceptable to Iran which would want a permanent lifting of sanctions instead to allow long term investments etc.

      Legally, US sanctions on Iran cannot be lifted even if Iran totally gives up her nuclear program.
      https://nationalinterest.org/feature/are-sanctions-fatwa-iran-6363

      The legal preconditions to lifting sanctions are deliberately ridiculous because they’re meant to be unliftable essentially

      The continuation of Congressional sanctions under Obama was also why the JCPOA nuclear deal failed from the very start, before Trump was even elected and before he tore up the deal. (Obama and Kerry even tried to rally foreign banks to do business with Iran anyway but gave up since the banks were more concerned about OFAC rules.)

      So no, the JCPOA nuclear deal was actually NOT “working” before Trump killed it contrary to widespread claims & despite Iran’s verified compliance with it for more than a year even after Trump tore up. Trump’s “withdrawal” did not kill the nuclear deal as it was never implemented by the US even under Obama thanks to continued Congressional sanctions, nor could it ever be implemented thanks to those sanctions:

      “if the situation is not appreciably better soon, it will be impossible for the US and its partners to argue credibly that they are not in breach of the JCPOA.”
      THE IRAN NUCLEAR NEGOTIATIONS: ONE YEAR ON
      Sir Richard Dalton
      https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/03068374.2016.1225896

      The Iranians had already started complaining too, before Trump was elected and “withdrew” from the deal
      https://www.politico.eu/article/top-iranian-official-says-us-and-eu-have-not-fulfilled-nuclear-deal-weapons-valiollah-seif/

      See, the aim and purpose of US sanctions on Iran is not so much to constrain Iran which is already throroughly sanctioned; the piled-on sanctions laws are instead meant to pose as legal and political impediments to improved relations between the US and Iran (which Israel disapproves of). Thats also why we still have sanctions on Cuba decades after the death of Castro and Communism – because another Congressional ethnic group lobby opposes improved relations and want to block it:

      Cuba Sanctions: Legislative Restrictions Limiting the Normalization of Relations
      Source: EveryCRSReport.com https://share.google/vH4TgnGtSXTcM6djQ

      The actual “threat” Iran poses to Israel is not that Iran will nukes Israel, rather it is that Iran and the US may start to get along, which means Iran can then pose as a check on Israeli regional ambitions. That is why Israel has for decades tried to instigate a US-Iran conflict and why Israel & AIPAC so vehemently opposed the JCPOA nuclear deal

      https://jewishcurrents.org/aipac-refuses-to-learn-from-its-mistakes-on-iran

      https://www.catholic.org/featured/headline.php?ID=5970

      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-prodding-us-to-attack-iran/

      https://www.amazon.com/Single-Roll-Dice-Obamas-Diplomacy/dp/0300169361

      Netanyahu said that he was the only one who urged Trump to kill the Iran nuclear deal, boasting that he “stood up against the whole world” to make it happen
      https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/why-netanyahu-really-wanted-trump-to-scuttle-the-iran-deal

      Netanyahu also later expressed satisfaction that he finally convinced a US President aka Trump to attack Iran after 40 years of yearning
      https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/let-just-netanyahu-convinced-trump-202742557.html

      Netanyahu and Congresx won’t let Trump lift sanctions therefore no deal with Iran is possible. Trump cannot make a deal with Iran since at a minimum a deal will require permanent sanctions relief, which US Presidents cannot legally provide thanks to the influence of the Pro-Israeli lobby in Congress.

      I’d welcome any contrary opinions

    4. Isn’t this very similar to what Obama got..

      Only.civilian use
      Every single gram of uranium mined or enriched will be monitored by iea etc..

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