My wife and I have outgrown our current house. By all accounts it is a great house, we just need more space and outgrown the area. It is a three story, 5 bed, 2 bath, single family home just outside of Boston.
We do have a disagreement on how to move forward to selling it though. We have done a fair amount of work and up keep while we have lived here, such as put in a brand new backyard with irrigation, new water heater, refreshed rooms and bathrooms. We both agree on the common touch ups before selling like new paint, sand and refinish our hardwood floors that have a few years of dog scratches in them. Where we diverge is doing some additional renovations before we attempt to sell.
My wife is convinced we need to add an addition to the house so we can put a bathroom on first floor (we have one on the second floor and one on the third floor) and refinish our basement (standard unfinished New England basement, the floor is pretty uneven and could do with a better sump pump) or the house wouldn't sell. I'm struggling to see how this might be a good ROI for us.
We will already be taking a worse interest rate on our new home (bought right after covid before things skyrocketed) and think it would be worth putting the $100-150k in renovations into the down payment, or additional renovations for our new home. We also live in a pretty desirable area for a single family home, especially one with a yard and a 2-3 car driveway (depending on your car size), so I think it will sell fast regardless. Selfishly, it would also be nice to skip dealing with contractors to do a renovation of this scale.
What do you all think? This is our first home and first time selling one, so we are inexperienced and appreciate any advice! Thank you!
Is a major renovation worth it before selling
byu/mountainmanz inRealEstate
Posted by mountainmanz
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Speak to a realtor and they will advise you what the best thing to do is. It sounds like there are a lot of things you don’t know. For instance, have you looked into the market for what you want to buy and can you afford it? Why would you do all that work to do a remodel and leave? Why wouldn’t the remodel make the house work for you guys? Start with several realtors and let them help you get clear. Also, most of the time homeowners think that they will get back the work they put in and that’s just not apples for Apple’s return on investment. Realtors will do comps for you and explain what your current house would be worth when it comes to recently sold and similar. They can also run comps for you on what would be the remodel. But it’s gonna be a huge headache and cost way more than you think it will.
A realtor or someone else who knows your local market well is going to be in a much better position to answer this question then you are.
You may also want to talk to a lender about what your options are for new houses. In some ways buying your 2nd house is more complicated than your first since you need to navigate simultaneous transactions. Even if the ROI makes sense for home upgrades, you may really want to have that $100-150k available as cash to make this move happen.
95% chance you’d lose money. Everything is so expensive right now.
The sump pump would be worth it. Fix the pain points but don’t fret over the ‘make it better’ things.
No. It would be ridiculous to remodel. Even adding a small, no-frills half bath to your bottom floor will range between $10,000 and $20,000. Probably much more depending on plumbing needs and layout! Then who knows what else you are considering. People are paying for the property and the area. How big is your family that you are outgrowing a five-bedroom house? If you add an additional bathroom and finish your basement, are you really out of space?
It is okay if you just want a move, a change of scenery, or a nicer area, but fixing up and adding to a house you are claiming to leave because you need more of the very space you are considering adding seems redundant.
Hire a home inspector, have them inspect your house like they were inspecting a house you were buying and address the issues they find
I wouldn’t do major additions before selling unless all of your potential buyers say they’d buy it but there’s no bathroom on the main floor etc
Have a high level realtor walk your home and review your skill level to determine what can and should be done to maximize your sale and ROI.
If you must hire, then likely all you should do is tidy up and EMPTY. Super clean is the best thing and the highest ROI.
Leave nothing broken or squeeking. Doors swing and close nicely. Cracks filed and painted. Windows raiser bladed and polished. Pressure washed everything top to bottom. Oven looks like you never use it. Hire a service if you must.
Closets must be nearly empty. 1/2 of your furniture taken off property. Yes 1/2 and rent a storage unit. All personal decor OUT!! All seasonal decor stored stuff out. Leave only a hint of what a room is for.
Buyers have to imagine their belongings fitting. If yours is stuffed in there, it is difficult to imagine theirs fitting.
Yes this is dumb but if you want a fast and high dollar sale you’ll do it.
Leave NOTHING that looks like it is a maintainince headache. Again this is dumb but it works. A house is a lot of work. Pretend it’s a breeze when you are showing.
I’m seasoned in this activity and always get a stack of offers and accepting much higher than asking $.
If you put a dollar in be able to get at least two, if not more back
Oh hell no. There is no way that you will recoup the exorbitant amount of money you’ll pay for a bathroom extension.
Take her to some open houses in your area and she will see.
A realtor in your local market should be able to tell you the best bang for the buck. Most renovation yields less than the cost of renovation when selling. I am surprised you need more than 5 bedrooms.
Depends on your area honestly. In many parts of CA for example most homes that are turnkey and renovated move within 2 weeks on market, while homes that need more work, have problems in the disclosures, etc. can sit for 90+ days on market.
The return isn’t necesarily 1:1 and you shouldn’t expect to price in the entire cost of the renovations but the benefit would come from moving the home more quickly instead of paying an extra 3+ months of mortgage payments before it does.
That said speak with a local agent. They know your local market trends better than you or I do. They will know how much impact a remodel would have.