Synospsis: My spouse keeps pushing to invest in more real estate. I think we should focus on increasing our actual retirement accounts and brokerage accounts.

    The hopefully-not-to-long-but-probably-too-long-explanation:

    My spouse (36M) and I (33F) are what I consider to be FI-adjacent. We've never say down to figure out what our FI number would be. We have mostly focused on keeping spending down while increasing our salaries. Thus far, we have kept up a decent savings rate for most of our marriage (9 yrs, 50-70%/yr, depending on the year).

    We're also very flexible in regards to our overall timeline and goals. Best case scenario is that my spouse would retire early and I would keep working, mostly because he hates working for someone else and I tend to find have a job fulfilling.

    However, over these years, we've developed a misalignment when it comes to how to reach FI. My spouse has a strong preference for investing in real estate. I would like to invest more in traditional investing (especially Roth IRA and a regular brokerage account). We've tried to compromise on this and have a somewhat hybrid approach, prioritizing each of our personal risk tolerances and what we are/are not comfortable with.

    This has entailed

    • always getting entire company match for retirement contributions (was actually mandatory for most of our careers for a long time)
    • paying off primary mortgage
    • I max my Roth IRA every year. Spouse contributes to theirs as they see fit.

    Originally, when discussing real estate investment (like 7 yrs ago), we both agreed that we wanted to pay off our primary mortgage, just to feel a bit more secure. This was 100% about our own risk tolerance rather than investment optimization.

    About a year and a half ago, we both agreed we wanted to buy another rental property. However, we had a friend we were helping get back on their feet and who we needed to move out of our house. We decided to co-buy a second home that they could live in while paying most of the mortgage. We have the agreement written up legally. We originally hadnt planned on making additional payments on a rental's mortgage. However, with it being friend's home & interest rates at the time at 8.5% for our area, we decided to again work to pay the mortgage off early (once again, we made more of a security choice rather than pure optimization).

    This year had several big changes: we moved to a different state for my husband's job, had our first child, and I'm currently a SAHM. We're renting at the new location and transitioning our previous home into a rental.

    We plan on evaluating how long we'll stay in this area once my husband hits the 1-yr mark at the new job. If it looks like there's good long term potential, then we'd like to buy a house to get out of renting (and we both loved being home owners in our previous fixer-upper). We're currently saving up for a down payment, but at the expense of Roth IRA contributions and starting a college fund for the newborn. Based on the numbers I've run, we'll be hard pressed to come up with a 20% down payment on a year's notice. Two years would be much more feasible. Here's where we've really started to disagree:

    • My spouse has suggested borrowing from our 401ks to make up the difference.
    • He's also mentioned wanting to *again* pay a huge chunk extra on the mortgage those first few years.

    I think we're already over-invested in real estate equity and want us to diversify by investing more into a basic ETFs, even if it means renting for an additional year (it would seriously only be a single additional year). We've both talked it over several times but haven't come to a consensus.

    Here's our basic financial breakdown (rounded out) for reference:

    Pre-tax HHI: 120k

    Our rent: $2,200/month

    Net worth: 550k

    • Equity between the 2 properties owned: ~320k
    • 70k mortgage
    • 12k loan (home repair, deferred interest, have $ to pay it off rn but instead are making payments to pay it off before the interest kicks in).
    • HYSA: 40k
    • Retirement accounts: 170k
    • Brokerage: 10k

    Just started contributing to a health savings plan (didn't have the option previously).

    Since we're at a type of standstill, I figured I'd fish for some outside perspective. Is he crazy, am I crazy, are we both crazy? Does any of this make actual sense or is our overall strategy too far from a traditional FIRE to really apply here? I'm open to all of this or more.

    Edit: accidentally hit post while trying to scroll down on mobile before finishing, sorry!

    Outside perspective on balancing between how my spouse and I would like to achieve FI
    byu/Finance-Alt001 infinancialindependence



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    2 Comments

    1. Low_Finger_62 on

      bro you’re already at like 60% real estate in your portfolio, your wife has a point about diversifying more. borrowing from 401k just to buy another house when you could wait one more year? that’s pretty aggressive especially with a newborn

      i spend way too much time looking at real estate online and yeah the market is tempting but having most your wealth tied up in couple properties is risky. what if your local market tanks or you need cash fast?

      maybe compromise – rent the extra year, max out both IRAs, build up that brokerage account. real estate will still be there in 12 months and you’ll be in better position overall

    2. I mean yeah, I’m with you – work on those actual retirement accounts and don’t pull from what you already have. I think some people just get obsessed with the idea of real estate. But this is a decision you two need to finalize as a team.

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