Sorry for the stupid title but looking at the performance of the markets and their (non-)reaction to global events, I am thinking that the stock market, as a mirror of (global) economics, no longer works.
Yes, there are downturns (as seen lately) but the recovery time gets faster each time and given the economic situation the current all time highs just don't add up. And arguing against my post – of course markets always go up in the long term but I hope you get my point.
So back to my theory: I think the gap between the poor and the rich has widened since Corona even more and there is simply so much money floating around that needs to be invested in order to make the rich richer.
So we might have created kind of a financial perpetuum mobile.
The question is: where will this lead to and is there a chance that we'll see "normal" markets again?
Will markets forever go up from now?
byu/chatman77 inStockMarket
Posted by chatman77
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yes. Red days are illegal.
Yes
Forever is a long time, buddy. Not even black holes will last that long.
All my stocks are down and it’s been 6 months and I’m going down further. No recovery whatsoever for me.
Maybe but they could also go down
You will be chided for your grammar but yes in large part that is exactly how it will unfold. If you plot liquidity (more specifically, m2 supply) against the stock market the correlation is almost 1:1 and given the state of the national debt and other inflationary pressures I think it is pretty clear that the only direction will be up, especially when the next fed chair comes in and forces rate cuts.
Overwhelmingly likely yes.
Depends what you consider “normal”
But yes, markets will reset. I don’t see how a recession is avoided at this point. Its probability of happening, is over 90% especially when oil stays elevated for months.
It will go down and correct right after retail FOMOs
today was red for most tech/saas/infra/space. NOW is almost 20% down on the day
while the market as a whole can keep flat or positive, money rotates the sectors all the time.
Yeah, Trump has tripled the level, so it will go up three times as fast now.
You won’t for foreseeable future. Too big to fail is real nowadays. Our tech advances are like almost any other ever in history. Back in the day TSLA, MSFT, AWS, GOOD would never be allowed to get the size they are would get broken up like a utility.
I didn’t start really investing directly in stocks until 2013 but have done 401k earlier. I did mostly real estate but since 2013 everything new went all in. I’m in tech and it’s just super odd how advanced and new companies coming out of nowhere.. and when they go public they are massively huge right outta the gate.
Pfft no. Remember it’s the bullet you don’t see coming that gets you ( probably) and restarting a market /economy that falters is really hard. No guarantees
The markets are being propelled by DCA index investing. When the job market tanks the stock market will too, but it won’t happen until then, because most investors aren’t investing based on the news.
Just a few more posts like this and I think we have our top signal.
The stock market was never about global economics. The US stock market is about US stocks.
Point of fact: The stock market today is barely higher than where it was 6 months ago.
3.5% higher than on October 29, 2025.
“Well, Dude, we just don’t know.”
AVGO hit 2 Trillion market cap this week and up 150% in 1 year.
Op …what are you 9 years old?
What exactly are your qualifications to know what is normal? Are you a lead macro analyst at one of the big investment houses or banks?
Until USD loses its reserve currency status, yes. Bears are are fucking dumb and haven’t figured out that nothing bearish matters whether it’s underwhelming tech earnings, war in the middle east, oil shock, or tariffs. The only thing that matters is if the United States loses its ability to print $.
No. We had a near two year bear market just recently after Covid.
No. Its like in 2008. Even when the crash is a fact top wallstreet ceo’s will say everything is just fine. The market will crash superhard as it did in the 30’s and it will happen within 5 years. I bet my left arm.
Now this sort of post is the reason I know for certain the crash is going to be absolutely horrendous.
You have to look at things in context. Inflation and money-printing dictate that the market will always go “up” over an extended period of time, but you also have to see where real gains happen. Real-world effects are more important than a number going up.
Down 600%
It can look like that but markets have always gone through cycles. Fast recoveries don’t mean downturns are gone.