I’m a millennial but I have a cat and plan to keep owning one or two cats at a time, and to never have children. Kids are expensive, risky, and extremely time-intensive. Plus our careers probably won’t really settle until we’re 40.
Liminal_Aspect on
Similar surveys show Gen Z is choosing roommates over buy a house and the bus over owning a sports car…. why do they CHOOSE these things?
If only there were reasons for those choices. Material, actionable observations one could make that could allow for policy adaptation that might change what ‘choices’ are being made? If only… oh well, now back to how millennials are killing microbrewing firms.
TastySpermDispenser7 on
Most people are going to reach for the trope about how expensive children are.
For something like 40 years though, America has had a zombie curve. Those making less than 20k a year always have more babies than those making up to 400k a year. (It only flips back once a household makes more than 700k a year).
I am going to give you a very controversial opinion. The single mothers with illegal/underreported sources of income do not know something those software engineers in the bay area don’t. Maybe if you get enough education, you look at all the things you could do with your life and decide that waking up in the middle of the night to wipe up shit and puke isn’t as beautiful and fun as people say it is?
ILearnedTheHardaway on
Been this way for years. It’s why pet insurance is a thing now and why vets are insanely expensive. Money is seeing the opportunity cause there treating animals as children
feelfizz on
“Pets offer the companionship and responsibility of caring for another life but at a much lower cost.”
Lmao that’s exactly why I am childfree, I don’t want to be responsible for anyone’s life. I don’t plan to have my own pets either for the same reason. It baffles me that they genuinely think that sounds soooo great, like we’re all yearning to have someone’s survival depend solely on us and us alone, every single day without break. No thanks, sounds unbearably anxiety inducing.
VampArcher on
Good. We are broke and we have enough people. If society collapses because infinite growth is not sustainable, maybe it should collapse and we should stop blaming individuals for not wanting to sustain a system that doesn’t work.
aspectratio12 on
my employer keeps telling me i make good money but im barely making it with only essentials. why would i raise a kid in a 1 bedroom appartment? health insurance is 20% of my income, rent is 40% of my income, transportaion is 10% of my income, utilities are 10%; clothes, food & slef care is 10%. out of the remaining 5% i have to live my life and add to savings. i’m not missing 5%, that is price gouging, inflation, mysteryfees and taxes. i would need to make six figures to buy a 2 bedroom row home, which i would absolutely love to do at minimum.
for reference, i make more in 1 year than my parents paid for their 4 bedroom house on 32 acres 40 years ago. the county stole that house for back taxes after implementing an insane increase in school and property tax.
thethirdbarhv on
I have five grown Gen Z kids, and I will never, ever pressure them into having children! My grand pups and grand kitties are enough. Why torture my offspring with more offspring? Let them lives their lives for themselves, the way I never could!
naththegrath10 on
Data also shows that it cost thousands of dollars for child birth, hundreds of thousands to raise them, also we rank 55th in maternal mortality
ProfessorSmoker on
Stop importing millions of immigrants to spike demand for housing and essentials. Stop forcing everyone to subsidize other people’s children while they can’t afford their own.
Coupe368 on
You wanted less teen pregnancies didn’t you?
Its dropped from 48 per 1000 girls to 11 in the last 25 years with a dramatic change around 2008.
Hmmm, I wonder what happened around 2008 that destroyed the world.
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I’m a millennial but I have a cat and plan to keep owning one or two cats at a time, and to never have children. Kids are expensive, risky, and extremely time-intensive. Plus our careers probably won’t really settle until we’re 40.
Similar surveys show Gen Z is choosing roommates over buy a house and the bus over owning a sports car…. why do they CHOOSE these things?
If only there were reasons for those choices. Material, actionable observations one could make that could allow for policy adaptation that might change what ‘choices’ are being made? If only… oh well, now back to how millennials are killing microbrewing firms.
Most people are going to reach for the trope about how expensive children are.
For something like 40 years though, America has had a zombie curve. Those making less than 20k a year always have more babies than those making up to 400k a year. (It only flips back once a household makes more than 700k a year).
I am going to give you a very controversial opinion. The single mothers with illegal/underreported sources of income do not know something those software engineers in the bay area don’t. Maybe if you get enough education, you look at all the things you could do with your life and decide that waking up in the middle of the night to wipe up shit and puke isn’t as beautiful and fun as people say it is?
Been this way for years. It’s why pet insurance is a thing now and why vets are insanely expensive. Money is seeing the opportunity cause there treating animals as children
“Pets offer the companionship and responsibility of caring for another life but at a much lower cost.”
Lmao that’s exactly why I am childfree, I don’t want to be responsible for anyone’s life. I don’t plan to have my own pets either for the same reason. It baffles me that they genuinely think that sounds soooo great, like we’re all yearning to have someone’s survival depend solely on us and us alone, every single day without break. No thanks, sounds unbearably anxiety inducing.
Good. We are broke and we have enough people. If society collapses because infinite growth is not sustainable, maybe it should collapse and we should stop blaming individuals for not wanting to sustain a system that doesn’t work.
my employer keeps telling me i make good money but im barely making it with only essentials. why would i raise a kid in a 1 bedroom appartment? health insurance is 20% of my income, rent is 40% of my income, transportaion is 10% of my income, utilities are 10%; clothes, food & slef care is 10%. out of the remaining 5% i have to live my life and add to savings. i’m not missing 5%, that is price gouging, inflation, mysteryfees and taxes. i would need to make six figures to buy a 2 bedroom row home, which i would absolutely love to do at minimum.
for reference, i make more in 1 year than my parents paid for their 4 bedroom house on 32 acres 40 years ago. the county stole that house for back taxes after implementing an insane increase in school and property tax.
I have five grown Gen Z kids, and I will never, ever pressure them into having children! My grand pups and grand kitties are enough. Why torture my offspring with more offspring? Let them lives their lives for themselves, the way I never could!
Data also shows that it cost thousands of dollars for child birth, hundreds of thousands to raise them, also we rank 55th in maternal mortality
Stop importing millions of immigrants to spike demand for housing and essentials. Stop forcing everyone to subsidize other people’s children while they can’t afford their own.
You wanted less teen pregnancies didn’t you?
Its dropped from 48 per 1000 girls to 11 in the last 25 years with a dramatic change around 2008.
Hmmm, I wonder what happened around 2008 that destroyed the world.