I cant post a picture but I remember what the market was like before the war started and it was pretty flat and sputtering, IMO.
When the war started and sensibly went down but with talks of the war ending,, it is now ripping to new highs.
Im just confused because I remember what was being said before the war started and it seems like the environment for the world economy will be worse now.
Why is the market ripping now, when it was sputtering/flat before the war started??
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Posted by cutchemist42
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Massive financial intervention. Like 2020
Markets don’t really move based on whether things are “good” or “bad,” they move based on expectations vs reality.
Before the conflict, there was already a lot of uncertainty hanging over the market. Once something actually happens, even if it’s negative, markets sometimes react positively just because the worst-case fears don’t materialize.
Feels like this rally is at least partly relief + positioning, not necessarily optimism about the economy.
Tech earnings are unaffected. People are buying earnings
You’re assuming rationality to a very large and incomprehensibly complex thing as the world economy. There is no single driver of it.
And the current market is very much based on vibes
more buy, less sell. good luck figuring out the why when each hour millions of transaction are occuring, and behind each a different rationale
1. The government will be spending more money now. Deficits increase asset values.
2. Trump’s Fed pick is now clear and he wants rate cuts which could increase inflation again. Inflation increases asset values.
3. The situation is worse for ex-US economies. Dubai isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. Uncertainty usually drives money into US assets.
https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/data-centers-are-making-you-pay-for-big-techs-boom/
The uncomfortable truth is that what’s “good” for humans isn’t always “good” for the market and vice-versa.
And war has **always** been good for certain industries. What those industries are has changed, in a very broad sense; it use to be swords and bullets, now its drones and bullets.
AI pretty much being validated via Anthropic hitting 30bn run revenue (wasn’t supposed to happen until EOY)
CAPEX on this earnings in this case was not shrugged off like last time, semiconductors (AMD,INTC,MU,etc) are ripping from this CAPEX of Mag 7
I’ll give you the answer I always give: Fraud?
Let er rip…
To make everyone positioned on the wrong side just to do the opposite
The pricing was inflated prior to the war beginning. After sell off occurred, the pricing was much more attractive and more in-line with expected pricing vs book value.
Because companies continue to make a shitload of money
AI starting to produce ROI