Hi!
Recently got accepted into both Math + CS and Math + Econ at the University of Montreal, and I wanted opinions from people with more industry / academia exposure than I currently have.
As context:
– I’m planning on pursuing grad school regardless of path, at minimum a master’s and potentially a PhD.
– On the Math + CS side, I’d mainly target Data Science / AI / ML and potentially research oriented work.
– On the Math + Econ side, I’d mainly target computational finance / quantitative economics, while remaining open to banking, policy, higher-level finance/accounting and other people facing roles.
– My background includes a fair amount of self taught programming, both lower level / performance oriented work (embedded, systems) and some data engineering / ML fundamentals, which I genuinely enjoyed.
Also, assume strong academic performance as baseline for the discussion (top ranking student / around 4.3 GPA ), mostly because it matters for grad school related advice. I'm also contantly planning and woking on self learning and self guided projects; whatever I do I actively try to make my hobby.
A lot of my hesitation comes from these points:
– I feel it may be easier to stand out in Data Science through academic research, projects, publications / self driven demonstrable technical work.
– UdeM seems like a uniquely strong opportunity for AI research given Mila and the broader ecosystem, while also being solid for computational finance.
– I’m more flexible career wise on the Econ side; I’m not interested in traditional software engineering anymore, whereas economics/finance seems to leave more safe doors open.
– I’m apprehensive about both the volatility/hype based demand around AI markets and the heavy credential/networking culture in finance.
– From the outside, it feels like raw technical skill and research output carry more weight in DS/AI than they do in finance, where signaling/networking/internship name prestige seem more dominant. (Could be wrong here, please correct me if I am)
– I also feel a master’s adjacent to economics (computational econ/econometrics/quant finance) may go proportionally farther and yield more interesting opportunities than a DS master’s, where PhDs seem much more common at the higher end research level I like.
– One of my fears is that on the DS/AI route I’m effectively betting on landing something like a Mila PhD/research trajectory to fully justify the path long term.
– I’m also concerned about AI’s impact over the next 5-10 years and whether higher level economic/policy/finance roles might ultimately be more resilient than technical DS work.
Long story short:
– I love applied mathematics and independent research.
– I’m genuinely interested in both economics/markets and data science.
– I can see myself enjoying either path ( I like everything, it's somewhat a major flaw of mine).
What I struggle distinguishing, given I see fun in both avenues:
– the borderline “dream like” but potentially high upside AI/data path
– the seemingly more rigorous and institutionally stable economics/finance route.
Would especially appreciate perspectives from:
– people in quant / computational finance or finance more broadly
– AI or DS workers and researchers
– econ grad students
– poeple with insight on either job market
– people who faced / are facing a similar decision
Apologies for the post length, I hope it's digestible enough. I'm quite frankly lost in my decision making, I think I structured my thoughts well enough but can't seem to go past bringing out the main contention points, hece why I'm seeking for some insider advising and insight.
Thanks a lot! I immensly appreciate any insight and your time.
Math + CS vs Math + Econ at UdeM – grad school and career implications, which route to choose today?
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