Polkadot Upgrade Causes MASSIVE Swing In Price! (Holders WATCH THIS!)

    this is discover crypto today we’re
    going to be talking about what Will bit
    coin do after the having also we have
    polka dot just got a major upgrade and a
    lot of people are saying what is going
    on with this chain and then last but not
    least we got SPF going the way of the
    tekashi 69 of web 3 that’s right he’s
    singing like a canary and he might be
    hitting the high notes let’s go around
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    blockchain all right thank you for
    joining in like Johnny December says go
    ahead hit that like cuz it is a good
    show and we got some of these guests on
    including piano Maddie B in the green
    square piano Mat B how are you doing I
    heard it’s uh really really cold where
    you’re at how is it in the Canadian uh
    the northern Tundra it’s unbelievable
    it’s actually 5 degrees Celsius so you
    can see in my t-shirt I walk outside I
    drive around I go to the store in a
    t-shirt now if anyone from the States
    was up here they would be in a parka but
    us us Canadians 5 degrees let’s party a
    baly five degrees also on we got first
    time so make sure you show that ATB love
    we got to make sure we follow all his
    content it is Jordan hoffy Jordan I
    heard you’re uh the the consultant to
    the stars in web 3 uh tell just a quick
    background about
    yourself that’s that’s a that’s a large
    introduction that um background for
    myself is I mean I’ve been I’ve been in
    uh IT consulting for 10 12 years I’ve
    been in the crypto space for I think
    three or four years uh about two about
    three years as an actual consultant for
    projects and uh I’ve done work on
    Avalanche project and uh currently uh
    madic and salana all right but everyone
    really wants to know what is your cable
    management like you know but we’ll get
    into that later stick around and then
    also we have OJ Jordan it’s his last
    week under the thumb some would say of
    Javier mle uh he’s about to leave
    Argentina and head Eastward uh can you
    can you give us any insight of where
    you’re heading
    I’m going back to Europe I’m going to
    Spain first and then I think maybe the
    UK briefly I haven’t decided I I kind of
    I I decide last minute some of those
    things but yeah first I’m going to
    Barcelona okay all right are you going
    to land on the shore in a in a dingy in
    a boat like many of the the recent uh
    anyways we move all right let’s talk
    about Bitcoin
    everybody it’s already off the rails
    well Bitcoin is having a moment moment
    here everybody I want to share this
    tweet from Michael sailor this kind of
    the Crux of what we’re talking about
    here Bitcoin was
    8,618 on the day of the last Bitcoin
    having he’s highlighting the fact you
    know where Bitcoin was uh this was on
    May 11th four years ago when it hit that
    low by January 21 this is just eight
    month later Bitcoin had already surged
    it had more than tripled hitting 30k it
    hit 60k by April of 2021
    uh but if we look at the numbers if we
    look at the November high so for the
    March 2020 low to the November 20201
    High we’re looking at a 700% surge
    Bitcoin did a nice little 8X right there
    if we were to copy that rally for a 700%
    surge uh it looks like Bitcoin will
    reach
    $489,000 we’re looking at a half a
    million dollar Bitcoin a lot of people
    saying that’s a little bit moonshot now
    Matty B you do a lot of ta I know you
    like to to pull out the extensions you
    know look look at uh some pretty strong
    trend lines well last time Bitcoin did
    an
    8ex what do you think it will do this
    time when it comes to uh you know that
    $15,000
    low well before we get all delusionally
    bullish I just want to do a quick recap
    of what they call the goldenest of
    golden ratios and that’s the 61.8% FIB
    so if you see the on the old dingdong
    here the
    daily this pump here we immediately
    retraced to 61.8 we actually hit it
    again so that’s the that’s the golden
    pocket I think they call it to the
    goldenness the golden ratios now if we
    go to the weekly we can see we actually
    did it as well we Wick down here to the
    61.8% FIB now unfortunately I mean we
    have one more chart to visit it’s the
    monthly and if the monthly SE is the
    61.8% FIB it’s right here at
    45.2 and now how depressed would
    everyone be if we hit
    41.2 I would be very happy because I
    think it’s another opportunity to buy
    whatever you want to buy but that’s
    where the Fibonacci like to go we like
    to visit the goldenest of golden ratios
    that being said I really subscribe to
    the all bets are off this time’s
    different because of the institutional
    aping in so I mean sky limit I don’t I I
    don’t really follow the old um the old
    Cycles anymore because I think we just
    have so much money coming in here that
    it may be the first of almost a
    recycling of
    sorts uh you know and on that note piano
    Mat B looking at the repeated downturns
    that have been bought up every dip this
    cycle yeah from the low has just been
    20% and then it bounces 20% it bounces I
    think we have five under our belt at
    this point within a one or two%
    deviation so you’re looking at like
    18.4% to like 21.6 we have not really
    exceeded those ranges so uh what what
    just quick followup Mat B I mean do you
    think that will continue where once we
    hit 20% draw Downs the whales just come
    in and start gobling it up it’s hard to
    say because I mean on that monthly that
    draw down to the 61.8% is 35% now that
    is what we saw last bull run all day
    long it was like Monday pump Friday 35%
    Monday pump 30 Friday 35% right we
    haven’t seen that yet so it’s almost
    like we need to get it off the books
    right before we can go to the Moon
    because what the market likes to do is
    to crush people right I mean we’re
    already dead inside they can’t crush us
    right but to the noobs they want their
    heart broken they want to go you know
    what I don’t think bitcoin’s for me I
    I’m going to get out and that’ll be
    right at 61.8% 45k and then boom that’s
    when she takes off of people would feel
    very bearish at a 40 45k Bitcoin Gary
    Austin does anyone think Ada can 10x
    from here or is it dead I think it can
    but uh when be surprised if the sell
    pressure at 420 as a psychological
    number is going to be quite tremendous
    that’s going to be about a 8.4x so just
    uh quick back of the napkin math now
    Jordan you know I’m looking at uh you
    know the previous Cycles we get the same
    type of thing and the tail end of the
    year we get a nice little blowoff top
    you know the last cycle I mean we kind
    of had a blowoff of move in April and
    then you know we kind of just touched it
    in November of 2021 did US reaching a
    new all-time high before the having
    where it’s typically about a half year
    after the having because we’re so far
    ahead of schedule do you think that
    hurts our chances for a blowoff top in
    say 2025 or even later this
    year I think the the safest the safest
    response to that I think would be it
    will hurt the chance for a lot of
    altcoins
    bitcoin’s obviously in a in a scenario
    right now that’s it’s way different uh
    ETF is obviously the Catalyst that that
    brought us to that point but
    I I I I think bitcoin’s in in a healthy
    place the the volume looks good it gets
    bought up when sells off real well
    um I I I don’t think I I would feel
    pretty pretty confident you’re going to
    be looking at at uh soaring numbers it’s
    just a matter of when which that’s
    classic right we all know that it’s it’s
    um logically it’s going to slowly go up
    but the speed over the next
    year I would feel pretty confident and
    moving moving uh moving higher oh jordo
    uh could you feel confident uh throwing
    out a prediction for this cycle I’ll
    start just to you know to break the ice
    here I’m looking at you know I think
    180k is quite reasonable you know I used
    to be a little bit more bearish but that
    was after seeing the ETF inflows kind of
    up my number well what’s your number
    that’s a that’s a that’s a fair number
    because obviously you hear some
    ridiculously high numbers you hear some
    ridiculously low numbers um if players
    like you know Morgan Stanley and uh
    players on that level get in I think 180
    will be pretty pretty easy over the next
    next year or two at that point you
    almost don’t even need to rely on Major
    Market catalysts like havs to to get
    into it because you have such a a buy
    pressure and a supply shock um
    you know people always are hard on me
    because I seem be I’m so I’m so bullish
    on crypto in general the technology um
    but things like this you have so many
    things that play into it like like all
    like sudden meme coin Cycles you never
    expect and all these all these different
    things that kind of foot sweep um runs
    of different other other parts of the
    market uh I’ve always been in the the
    140 150 Camp honestly okay 140 150 all
    right all right well uh let’s go on to
    uh let’s see OJ I got to throw it to you
    here now we’re kind of throwing out some
    upside projections I I want you to scare
    me I want you to freak me out okay so
    after we hit the all-time high let’s
    assume this year next year sometime next
    18 months or so Bitcoin is probably
    going to have a another beish period
    like it has every single time say two
    years after the having uh yeah it kind
    of starts about that last low was 15K no
    one a lot of people didn’t think we’d go
    below 20 we went below 20 we hit 15K
    what is your low prediction for the next
    cycle I mean is it lower than that is it
    higher than that what’s your bare case
    for say 2026
    2027 it’s well right now is not a good
    time to make that prediction
    unfortunately because it typically
    Bitcoin uh retraces by around 80% last
    time it did
    73% uh in previous Cycles it’s done 78
    83 even 88% retracement from an alltime
    high but um we don’t have an alltime
    high yet uh I mean in this cycle we we
    haven’t seen the top uh to to be able to
    see exactly what would that 80% be but
    to me it makes sense to say something
    around 50k um it could even be 30k it
    depends on where the top is if the top
    is 120 or something then maybe we drop
    to 30 but I would feel confident at
    around uh 50,000 to see a bottom during
    the next bare cycle because 50 and
    60,000 so far proves to be quite a
    decent support you know it is a
    consolidation level that we were hanging
    around for a while so we established it
    as a decent support I feel that if we if
    it drops down to this level it will make
    sense to find a bottom there but again
    it depends if we go much higher then
    maybe 60k will be the absolute bottom
    but if we don’t maybe we drop to 40 48
    uh these were also support levels I’m
    talking really on top of my head right
    now because I’m not really looking at
    the charts but uh yeah this makes sense
    to me all right I like some of these
    numbers look at at chat Kelly with the
    shout out to bit lab 188k to the upside
    retest down to 90k to a bare retest
    there uh I would love bouncing off of
    90k that would be a good feeling Eric
    gimell
    150,000 uh lot all right 420 people
    people like that number for some reason
    oh because it was just April 20th I get
    it I get it three days ago all right
    let’s talk about polka dot everybody uh
    first you know what I I’ll pull up the
    coin uh let’s let’s look at some of the
    price here it’s rank 15th if I’m not
    mistaken oh wow it’s Fallen it is Fallen
    to 16th look at that Bitcoin cash has
    knocked it out of the top 15 who would
    have thought it uh we look very very
    high numbers polka dot was above $50 at
    one point right now under 10 if you look
    at market cap above $55 billion for full
    reference salana hit 70 billion last
    cycle so you know we’re talking about
    some pretty high numbers here so $55
    billion market cap but when you look
    current market cap less than 10 so you
    know looking like some 5x uh to the
    upside but why are we talking about
    polka dot well share my screen real
    quick we saw a temporary halt in Block
    production after an upgrade but wait
    there’s uh there’s a little bit of an
    aster here you can see moon beam had
    some issues with its uh staking smart
    contract PA chain here but uh we had a a
    web it’s a developer here for polka dot
    he pointed out no no no wasn’t polka
    Dot’s issue this was a user interface
    issue you may see issues with staking
    uis and various wallets this is just a
    UI issue not a problem with staking
    itself no action needed from the users
    uh we also got some good upgrades Jam
    upgrade uh for the the the fish fans out
    there or uh you know any any of those
    jam bands out there so uh the DOT
    unaffected by recent news we saw the
    price right there what are we looking at
    for the past 24 hours down
    1.8% so uh worse than what salana would
    do if it went down but by no means it’s
    looking like uh the the coin is crashing
    oh the upgrade supposed to combine
    ethereum smart contract features with
    polka dots architecture uh their their
    their pa chain model right there so
    Jordan Hof I haven’t had you on before I
    I just want to throw out know just a
    general question here what are your
    thoughts on polka dot as an
    ecosystem uh polka dot as an
    ecosystem I nothing against it I think I
    think it’s uh has a lot of lot of
    healthy ideas par chains are just
    another way to you know handshake and
    and expand your network with with other
    networks uh Moon beam’s obviously a
    perfect example of that doing this
    upgrade um I think it has a has solid
    tokenomics it has a solid team team it
    has it’s a solid project you know it’s
    it’s a it’s a it’s I would it’s
    definitely a
    premere you know layer one if you had
    had to list it it’s in it’s in its right
    spot and you you’ll have a lot of layer
    ones that are kind of you know playing
    like just the topple game right now um
    and there’s a I always say there’s a lot
    of tribalism that that happens with with
    these networks um but generally they’re
    going to all handshake and they’ll be
    the major winners
    but they’ll be the the tiers right below
    the major winners and I think that’s
    where polka dot will be so if you’re
    somebody who’s you know taking part in
    the the the network owning some dot you
    know benefiting off this network you’re
    in a great spot if you’re bullish on it
    publicly you’re in a great spot U
    there’s really there’s nothing that’s a
    huge drawback other than Growing Pains
    which which are which are healthy we saw
    that with salana right yeah yeah and uh
    you know integrating some uh eth I
    believe it is the op uh stack
    specifically so you know known to be
    some of the stronger development
    toolkits there Green Day very bullish on
    dot flat smack you wish I had a a cap
    Supply there uh I know our producer
    Hannah she she loves uh polka dot I
    think she’s working on a video right now
    with Owen uh now I want to ask you
    OJ is incorporating eth functionality
    into your existing blockchain would you
    consider that a bullish signal because
    hey you know top smart contract or would
    you consider that a bearish signal oh
    wait you’re you’re relying on help from
    others what what’s your take here no not
    necessarily a bearish signal but I don’t
    take it as a signal that much because
    this is really developers game this is
    things that um most of the investors
    don’t know about don’t care about don’t
    understand very much so these kind of
    upgrades however important they are for
    the network and for the um for
    developers really uh so that they can
    create better applications and you know
    invent which is important but it’s
    really important for the developers I
    don’t think that the investors are
    bothered about it and that’s why we
    don’t see much of a change in the price
    even with the bad news about polka dot
    it’s not really dropping the price that
    much because again this is bad news for
    um users and developers and don’t forget
    most of the market is uh investors
    speculators people people who are in it
    to make money they’re not really that
    much about the tech even though many
    people would say oh yeah I’m I’m all
    about the tech I believe in the tech and
    all of that everyone is in crypto to
    make money first and then comes the tech
    so that’s why these kind of upgrades
    don’t really change don’t don’t really
    move the price so much because it’s it’s
    not like a major upgrade like changing
    the protocol to like ethereum did from
    proof of work to proof of stake you know
    this is more major but the more
    technical upgrades they only matter for
    the developers and the and the community
    and the true
    devotees uh but the majority of the
    market is not those people yeah the
    majority are in it for the money and the
    people that screen the loudest I’m not
    in it for the money have commas in their
    net worth like 100% of the time all
    right piano matd B let’s let’s talk a
    little price action here you know I was
    looking at the alltime 55 billion market
    cap right now it’s under $10 you know it
    hit 55 bucks right now $7 I mean what
    what are your thoughts on uh the the
    price action of polka dot can we reclaim
    some of these all-time
    highs well I think all altcoins from the
    past bull market will be driven up by a
    higher tide however when I think of some
    of the I don’t I think it’s too soon to
    call them Legacy altcoins because it was
    only a cycle ago but to me it it brings
    to mind a bunch of toddlers on Big
    Wheels trying to get up a hill and
    they’re all kind of running their hoies
    to the quick most of them won’t make it
    no matter how hard they try their their
    little black wheels going to start
    spinning and they’ll probably end up
    going down but I think the one that will
    make it is that green machine and if you
    don’t know what a green machine is it’s
    because you’re not as old as I am but a
    green machine overtook all big wheels
    and I think that green machine for this
    cycle is salana and salana I think is
    gonna just grow so fast and gr gain so
    much adoption that it’s just going to
    over shower all those Rugrats on the big
    wheel and then we won’t even talk about
    them but will they go up a bit yeah
    everything’s gonna go up a bit all right
    all right salana definitely has to get
    that uh congested network issues taken
    care of you know at that Meme coin
    Zenith 72 hours ago four days ago
    whatever uh 75% of salana transactions
    failed so uh you know they they’re
    definitely if they fix that it’s the sky
    is the limit because the mcoin people
    are going to love that all right let’s
    talk a little SBF We buried it that’s
    right he is turning into a rat everybody
    let’s share this uh this article Sam
    bankman freed agrees to help FTX
    investors go after celebrity endorsers
    that is right there is a lawsuit and in
    that lawsuit a lot of people are named
    this is a civil crime you can see right
    there future civil liability tied to the
    collapse of FTX and that is a whole
    Litany of people but they’re going to
    the the civil lawsuit is going to let
    him off the hook if he’ll snitch on some
    of the names here that’s right Tom Brady
    Steph Curry Shaquille O’Neal Naomi Osaka
    uh superod Jazelle bungon are fighting
    the lawsuits they are still fighting
    some of the people have settled we have
    Tom Nash Brian Jung uh Andre xek uh
    let’s see there’s a couple others so oh
    Trevor Lawrence the uh the quarterback
    there he is also settled so it’s yet to
    be approved by a judge that’s an
    agreement amongst the PLS and FTX they
    say hey turn Canary give us all the
    names tell us all the details and we’ll
    remove you from the lawsuit so we can
    better go after a Tom Brady a Larry
    David a Shaquille O’Neal you’re going to
    need more Icy Hot after this uh when
    they’re done chapping your hide but
    let’s let’s get into the meat and
    potatoes first piano matb I’mma leave
    with you should I hate the word should
    but you know I’m going say it here
    should celebrities be held liable for
    ftxs
    collapse well the most surprising part
    about what you read There is how many
    celebrities I didn’t even know exist
    like all those names I think I might
    have known Tom Brady out of all of them
    but I think how Shaquille O’Neal yeah
    the big like throwback uh athletes but
    the other ones I know the
    theel invented Seinfield along with
    Seinfeld stanza is modeled after Larry
    David in real life
    that’s right um I think it’s gross that
    they would go after the celebrities
    those poor dumb celebrities what do they
    know they just kind of won a social
    Lottery and they’re at the top of their
    game they didn’t even know they’re going
    to play it and now they’re going to get
    sued from how about you sue the guy who
    made it rather than the guys who just
    they got a phone call from an agent hey
    you want to uh make 500k sure how you
    just got to say you like this uh I don’t
    know what it is some sort of altcoin I
    think it’s called FTX or something just
    say you like it and I get 500k yeah any
    strings at attached well some
    restriction May apply what no never mind
    and then he says yeah I like uh I like
    FTX and then he’s getting sued no let
    those let those celebrity celebrities
    just go out to pasture and Sue the
    person who made the GD
    token uh let’s see flash they didn’t
    know I blame Gary and his cohorts there
    uh poor dummies a lot of people plus one
    he had one job all right now Jordan Hof
    I I want to ask you you know just
    generally speaking I don’t know if you
    feel like the Charles Barkley uh you
    know angle here but what role does an
    endorser of a product have I mean is
    there any role I mean should there be
    any
    responsibility there’s I think there’s
    some some responsibility I I I kind of
    share MD’s opinion that it’s it’s hard
    to go after them completely because
    they’re not really the one pulling the
    triggers behind it
    um I I think a lot of this also falls on
    our process of of clarity and Regulation
    and the risks that come along with with
    everything early on in these markets so
    you could you could say the market was
    was ahead of actual regulation in this
    process uh but you know no one will
    obviously take accountability for for
    that um at that level they’ll keep you
    know everything going this way so that
    people will be made examples of uh and I
    think that that that pretty much sums up
    that angle I do want to share in the
    sentiment of uh uh Maddie on knowing
    what the the green machine is and not
    knowing who the majority those
    celebrities were
    so all right all right uh all those dang
    sports ball players there all right now
    uh I want to end it with you OJ here
    let’s let’s wheel it back to the far
    extreme of this example so on one side
    yeah you got Tom Brady you know saying
    you know hey you know throw a spiral
    like me with Bitcoin I don’t know what
    he’s saying in that commercial something
    like that and then we got you know
    people in the middle some of these
    smaller who even knows who these
    celebrities are but what about the other
    extreme what about actors just reading a
    line they’re giving a sheet of paper
    they’re just a they’re just a face a
    face in the commercial and they’re like
    yeah you know secure your funds with FTX
    should we hold the where do you draw the
    line I mean should the line readers be
    held liable
    here no I mean I I draw the line at uh
    what exactly is the contribution I mean
    what is the type of promotion they did
    because you have for instance if you
    remember back in
    2017 uh we had um John McAfee tweeting
    uh every week or every day was it an
    outco coin of the day or was it an outco
    coin of the week whatever it was and uh
    he was actively telling you buy this
    coin right and these coins were pumping
    hard and everyone who was getting early
    was making a ton of money with this and
    this was really Market manipulation so
    and of course they went after him later
    for that this I understand but um they
    didn’t even go after Elon for pumping
    Dogecoin which was again Market
    manipulation because you know Elon is
    one of the most famous people on the
    planet and of course when he tweets
    something and we saw what Dogecoin did
    in the previous BL Market I mean it was
    a coin that was almost dead and then it
    made this huge pumps and stuff like that
    and people did lose money during these
    pumps as well because they were getting
    you know a end like really high and
    stuff like that nobody really went uh
    after him for that so I draw the line at
    um you know exactly what was the the
    type of promotion they did if they were
    just uh you know had a contract where
    they had to say a few things you know a
    few lines as you said just read a line
    and that’s it and they’re not really
    actively involved they’re not brand
    ambassadors or anything like that then
    you can’t really hold them
    responsible um maybe maybe you you have
    a case to some extent some type of a
    fine but I I don’t understand going
    after the celebrties so much you really
    need to go after the people who did the
    Scamp you know who who who failed the
    project uh you know who who designed
    that project in a in you know in a
    fraudulent way let’s say rather than uh
    the person who promoted it because they
    got paid we know celebrities get paid
    for every product that they promote
    every uh brand that appears on their
    social media is some type of a promotion
    and we already know that and if you
    don’t know that then I I I don’t
    understand who doesn’t know that anyway
    so I don’t see them being that
    responsible for people’s
    failures all right well uh we’re going
    to go around the horn here around the
    blockchain with I said horn because I’m
    looking at espn.com Tom Brady we’re just
    going to point this out as a specific
    example if I could share this Tom Brady
    I don’t know if this moves the needle
    for you or not he lost 30 million in the
    collapse of crypto giant FTX you’re
    Wonder well why didn’t they you know get
    money well when it was valued at 32
    billion they had $48 million in equity
    now it has no value maybe you know a
    little bit more now after a little bit
    of a bull market with their Holdings
    there so should Tom Brady be in the
    lawsuit yay or nay uh piano Matty B are
    are are we suing Tom Brady yes or no no
    I don’t think any of should be in the
    lawsuit all right none of them Jordan
    Hof uh should Tom Brady be
    named I’ve no you you hesitated because
    he’s a cheater in football uh OJ Jordan
    should Tom Brady be
    named no I don’t think so especially if
    he had a skin in the game then it’s
    clear that he was not just Shilling so
    even more of a reason not to go after
    him I mean that that vindicates him
    because he’s basically genuinely
    invested in this project and genuinely
    believes that this project is a success
    so he’s not he’s not scumming you he’s
    not doing he’s not like lying to you or
    anything like that why would unless he
    talking about how inflated a football is
    in that case he is definitely lying to
    you uh MCA is a legend I I live two lots
    from his old house uh super super cool
    there uh Eagles beat Brady uh Einhorn is
    Finkle uh but folks that is all we have
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