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    here’s what’s coming up in the next 55
    minutes diesel prices drop further dang
    Refinery sells at 940 naar per liter for
    customers buying at least 5 million
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    lit and Kenya secondhand clothed imports
    from China uh Rise by 86% in the first
    quarter of
    2024 an introduction of Zig a short for
    Zimbabwe gold has led to a 99.95% fall
    in the Zimbabwe Stock Exchange oil share
    index
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    and it’s great to have you join us I’m L
    Williams let’s get to um the stories
    that set to your agenda now and most of
    the markets we track here starting with
    all Market we see all prices gained um
    after stronger economic data out of
    Europe as investors also weigh the
    potential Fallout from any fresh us
    sanctions on Iran’s oil export with
    tensions remaining High um that’s in the
    Middle East and we’re seeing um green on
    the screen there for uh Brent um up
    about 0.23% $87 27 a barrel getting back
    closer to that
    $90 uh Mark there that’s for Brent and
    WTI also looking forward to that $85 um
    mark up 0.27% so we’re seeing um
    positive sentiment today you know
    yesterday we see we did see uh the oil
    markets actually uh dropped so we’re
    seeing you know release of the US um GDP
    uh uh gross domestic uh product numbers
    that’s for uh coming on Thursday and
    we’re going to see how that’s going to
    drive sentiment everyone wants to know
    when is the US Fair going to cut rates
    you know in 2024 is there even going to
    be a rate cut you know at this point so
    looking forward to that um GDP number
    from the US let’s look at Metals market
    now um gold prices fell today that’s
    lowest in more than two weeks on easing
    concerns of an escalation in the Middle
    East as investors book um profits at
    this time but it’s had a wants to run
    you know at at this point talking about
    um the safe haven metal that’s gold
    $2,310 I remember when I was reporting
    about
    $1,600 per ounce um that was uh sometime
    early last year but this quite a big
    rally there we’re seen for gold silver
    has not left out down 1.74%
    $26.77 per ounce and padium that’s down
    about 1%
    0.95 uh
    $106 per ounce holding on to that $1,000
    level who knows if that’s um going to
    give way at some point let’s get to some
    other stories now the Lagos Chamber of
    Commerce and industry along with other
    stakeholders in the real sector of ped
    csy visit to the vice president Ibrahim
    shatima to share their perspective on
    macroeconomic issues as it borders on
    their operations as well as the impact
    of subsidy removal and ongoing reforms
    the president of lcci Mr Gabriel deos
    who the delegation believes that it was
    a fruitful meeting that has the promise
    of bringing new ideas shared into the
    running of the
    economy the fundamental changes that
    have come with the removal of subsidy
    the unification of the currency has
    opened up a lot of
    opportunities which we believe that the
    government can fast track with a couple
    of of policy and measures that we have
    discussed with the vice president and we
    have profiled some solutions which can
    be implemented and we have been assured
    by the vice president that a couple of
    these are practical they are doable and
    he intends to consult with his uh with
    the president and and work with us on to
    chat the piece of uh implementation the
    vice president that assured us that we
    will continue this conversation to on
    how best to implement these policies
    across various sectors of the economy
    agriculture oil and gas manufacturing
    and then the very important information
    and communication technology industry
    which is creating a lot of jobs for
    young
    people all right and yeah we did say
    that D petroleum refiner has again
    announced a further reduction in the
    price of both Diesel and Aviation foil
    uh fuel that’s to 940 and 980 per lit
    you know respectively and uh this coming
    on the wake of its widely celebrated
    price reduction we did get that price
    reduction of 1,000 Nair per liter so
    this is a further drop and 940 NAA
    that’s applicable to customers buying uh
    5 million L and above from the refinery
    while the price of 970 for Aviation
    fields for customers buying 1 million L
    and above so there we have it another uh
    another uh crash there for the uh price
    of diesel definitely uh I believe that’s
    good for you know manufacturers and
    Nigerians at this time but let’s get to
    our first conversation now according to
    the Ministry of Finance the World Bank
    will in June 2024 consider and give
    final approval to Nigeria’s
    2.25 uh billion doll loan requests the
    loan comprises about a $1.5 billion Loan
    in development policy um financing and
    another 7 50 million in program for
    result financing well let’s um drill
    down more on niger’s debt level joining
    us now is Mr namin wizu coill managing
    partner at commercial Partners joining
    me via Zoom great to have you on the
    show good afternoon good afternoon great
    to be here thank you fantastic so before
    we get into that we’re seeing uh the D
    Refinery again um impacting you know the
    price of diesel at this time is now
    1,000 Nar per liter um how you seing
    this and definitely looks like a good
    news for
    manufacturers I mean definitely I mean
    not just for manufacturers but for I
    mean Nigerians as a whole because it’s
    going to directly impact inflation um
    you have most middle class homes that
    have Diesel run generators middle class
    to High um to the high end end of the SE
    of
    the individuals rights all have diesel
    generators at home so if you look at
    that you’re going to say well all these
    people are going to have to pay less
    money for diesel or to power their homes
    considering you know how poor power
    supply has been so manufacturing sector
    of inflation coming down for homes for
    offices people who all use dies
    generators definitely going to be a big
    plus for them right how low do you think
    this prices you know can go do you think
    at some point might be looking at 500
    naar per lit at this rate
    well I mean we have to remember that the
    prices are sort of indexed to what’s
    happening globally with regards to C
    prices so for it to get to l means Cod
    prices would have to also come down PR
    aggressively
    alongside a major strengthening further
    strengthening of currency I don’t see
    the currency strengthening that much to
    let us get to say
    A500 per liter that means you’re talking
    about currency getting to maybe about
    500 Nara or 600 Nara to a dollar I’m not
    sure we see that happen this year also
    not sure it’s advisable for that to
    happen because you must have start to
    have huge pressure on the currency all
    over again all right definitely but
    let’s switch gears now yeah we’ve been
    talking about you know the um what we
    got last from uh over the weekend from
    the IMF World Bank um meetings and um
    definitely it was it was quite a busy
    one and um yeah yeah we we we found out
    from the federal government that we’re
    getting another loan and we chasing at
    this time but it’s been described as
    free launch just about 1% interest rate
    why do you think um the World Bank is um
    giving Nigeria this loan at such a low
    rate well I mean that’s what conal
    financing is all about you can get this
    kind of race commercially and you have
    the World Bank trying to assist certain
    economies if you look at the reforms
    that we’ve undertaken looking at um even
    World Bank and IMF mentioned it in their
    reports that came out recently I mean
    they’re happy with the way things have
    gone happy with the monetary policy and
    decision taken by government you know
    reduction in things like fro subsidy
    increase in taxes you know increase in
    exchange rates so all of that basically
    points towards uh some improvements
    expected improvements in the economy and
    yes I mean you would look at it as
    pre-launch 1% with a 40-year repayment
    period 10 year moratorium I mean it’s
    fantastic it allows you manage your
    repayment schedule and um I mean at 1%
    interest rate that’s definitely can’t
    get it anywhere else yeah definitely
    quite uh quite cheap financing there but
    what do you think this money will be
    spent on you know it still has to be
    paid back at the end of the day yes uh I
    mean ideally you should spend money to
    either you know Buster your budgetary
    allocations or you use it uh to invest
    in something that ensures you get
    returns that would outstrip what you’re
    paying in interest and also ensure that
    you can pay back uh the principal amount
    borrowed right so if you look at uh the
    long day 10 of the loan that definitely
    means that you should be looking at
    putting in infrastructure so roads or
    increasing power I mean imagine what
    improving power supply to in Nigeria by
    say about 40 50% would do for for the
    economy if you have that amount of
    increase in power supply then you will
    be able to increase manufacturing output
    at a lower rate and also Aid them in
    exporting which invariably would lead to
    you know more dollar revenues coming
    into the economy and makes it easier for
    the government to pay back so major
    infrastructure um type Investments that
    will ensure you grip the benefits that
    will allow you repay um this loan I mean
    not to use it to pay down effects
    obligations because that doesn’t
    necessarily bring you the kind of reward
    we’re talking
    about and looking at you know debt
    levels in um Africa we know debt is a a
    major issue you know right now for major
    African economies you know but asid
    taking on you know more loans you know
    at this time to you know help support
    the budget what other sources can the
    federal government you know look at at
    this time or even look at developing you
    know right
    now yeah I mean it’s interesting you
    mention Deb and you talk about debt in
    Africa as a whole we’ve seeing a few
    African countries Deport on their debt
    their Euro bonds of recent it’s going
    happen with Ghana Zambia Ethiopia so
    that tells you that one needs to really
    be careful with regards to you know
    death
    sustainability but if you look at us in
    terms of other sources government can
    develop I mean we know that Nigeria’s
    made main stay has been cral we know
    that government is pushing to try and
    get us to about 2 million barels per day
    from about the 13 or thereabout or 1.2
    million bars per day that we’re at that
    means they need to first of all t
    Security but we also need to focus on
    not just through alone but begin to
    diversify the economy one thing we need
    to look at you know part of what I
    mentioned earlier was to help or Aid the
    manufacturing sector to help improve
    exports same thing with agriculture we
    need to try and focus on things that we
    can export and that would help us bring
    in or grow the forign reserves and also
    look at um not just exporting raw
    materials but things that we’ve added
    value to I mean this has been said in
    time past you have cocoa and how much
    money do you make exporting cocoa versus
    exporting chocolate for instance by the
    time you go from cocoa to Chocolate you
    must have Mak an additional 40 or 50% in
    terms of returns so it makes more sense
    to export products that you added value
    to than just the raw materials loone so
    definitely looking at uh public private
    Partnerships you know or even selling
    underutilized or non- strategic assets
    like we’ve seen happen in Egypt can help
    you bring in you know uh more revenues
    to the government look at refineries
    that have been struggling to maintain so
    government can always look at selling
    some of them to improve to reduce the
    drug uh that you have on government
    finances and then have people who can
    come in manage them optimize value and
    start to export um you know finished
    petrum products the same way we expect
    dang refinary to do right and talking
    about that Egypt deal with United Arab
    Emirates develop a prime stretch of its
    Mediterranean Coast you know that’s
    bringing about $35 billion you know in
    investment into um Egypt in the next um
    a couple of months or so but how can
    Nigeria replicate this exact deal you
    know at this
    time well I mean talking about Egypt is
    a fantastic deal I would say uh I mean
    they’ve gone into some partnership with
    Abu Dhabi serving world for so I mean we
    basically say that Egypt more or less
    has a big brother so I mean it would be
    great if Nigeria for instance could get
    a big brother who would pay us $24
    billion to you know for development
    rights which is what you’ve seen in
    Egypt so for us I mean we start to look
    at progress bit of progress made we’ve
    seen some commitments but we need to
    start seeing those commitments get
    actualized we’ve looked at I mean the 10
    billion steel investment expected from
    India we have a pending agreement you
    know discussed with Qatar you know
    things like that are important those are
    the kind of things that can help
    stimulate Nigeria has a huge Coastline
    for instance if Egypt is being paid you
    know for rights to develop their own
    Coastline on the med Mediteranean what
    stops Nigeria from being able to offer
    same you know for instance or what stops
    us from um being able to offer things
    like National T and cod people who can
    come and help us develop um that side of
    the economy and help with the
    entertainment sector so I think we have
    to look at Large Scale type things large
    scale type developments that will
    stimulate economic growth you know
    create jobs and also attract Investments
    uh one thing that is key is not to have
    the previous mistakes we’ve seen with
    prior governments where people end up
    going to C Nigeria signs an agreement
    they re the agreement you ends up in
    court so look at the P Pani D type
    transaction right yes we ruled as a
    fraud but we should never even have been
    in that kind of scenario in the first
    place so we need to have agreements
    properly reviewed so that once we sign
    we know it’s in the best interest of the
    country and not going to have another um
    another executive coming and try to
    reverse it you can imagine Egypt for
    instance being coming down 5 10 years
    down the line say they’re reversing this
    $24 billion deal and what kind of
    repercussions you would have so we need
    to be able to do same give investors
    confidence to comeing to Nigeria assure
    them that whatever they sign will be
    honored by subsequent governments and
    you know try and create a fantastic
    ening environment for them right
    definitely we’ seen the president quite
    busy going around the world trying to
    get um all those investors in and tame
    some of their nerves at this time well
    thank you so much it was great having
    your perspective Mr Nam dzu co-managing
    partner at a commercial Partners thank
    you so much you’re welcome all right
    we’ll take a break now when we come back
    we head straight to the markets do stay
    with us this is business
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    Incorporated welcome back well it’s it’s
    time to get a sense of how your money is
    performing at intraday in the local boss
    and major markets around the world that
    we track and we have Willie bong with
    the details at this time hi Will yes so
    the markets are would I say they’re a
    bit uh cautious or they’re down with the
    rain you know it’s quite rainy days
    today so everyone is taking a nap I
    think you know they’re not just out of
    that sleepy mode yet so the market is
    still very sleepy we’re seeing some Reds
    pockets of Reds here and there mostly
    Reds but I hope that by the close of
    business they they would have been inv
    go to bed when the rain’s falling yes
    possibly so that’s what we’re seeing so
    but we’re going to be checking in with
    the markets I’m discussing with L the
    markets are red mostly red at in today
    sentiments are I say mostly negative but
    we hoping to see that red I mean the
    green pick up much later at the close of
    business we see Nigeria ngx down at in
    as the time we picked it up it was
    marginally down
    0.03% South Africa was the only gainer
    in the green as intad day also 0.03%
    marginally up elsewhere we see egfs e
    gx30 the Egypt egx30 is down
    0.44% that’s not very good and that and
    looking at what analysts are saying
    regarding that stock market say it’s
    going to face a corrective movement
    towards 26,000 points and that movement
    Market participants consider it to be
    logical now the egx declined 1.67%
    during Monday’s session now speaking of
    Monday’s session we see Kenya down uh in
    the Monday’s session in red territory
    and that is no brainer we’re hoping that
    that market rebounds because we see that
    shielding declining and is really
    affecting the stock market in that
    country well let’s check in with it on
    trading at the fixed income Market we
    have Caleb alimi is a chief Pro is a
    chief dealer at providers Bank he joins
    us on the show Good afternoon Caleb it’s
    good to have you on the program good
    afternoon will thank you for having me
    uh let’s kick off with system liquidity
    let’s see what’s going on there we know
    it’s tight how tight are we talking
    about and how it’s impacting sentiments
    in the F income Market believe you will
    share that with
    us uh first and foremost the market has
    been very tight like you rightly
    mentioned on Monday we opened a negative
    one about 1 trillion uh today it’s
    improved slightly to about 880 billion
    so just about minus 900 billion in the
    of system liquidity that has impacted
    markets you know with bearish sentiments
    we’ve seen quite a bit of sell interest
    across the curve we’ve seen the sell
    interest on Treasure bills especially
    between the maturities and the June
    maturities are short dated maturities
    you know the implication of the negative
    um negative system liquidity that banks
    are funding at a very expensive rate uh
    overnight you know among themselves at
    around
    3.75% you know that’s quite expensive
    and so what you would do is to you know
    free up whatever assets that you have
    the closer the maturity the better for
    you to you know sell it off and that’s
    what we’re seeing we’re seeing very
    sentiment unsure data treasury bills me
    maturities and
    maturities um now there’s going to be
    NTB auction you’ve just talked about
    some short dated bonds now which which
    is happening tomorrow which is Wednesday
    we about 142 billion nir water of papers
    will be on offer what are rate
    expectations Caleb considering the tide
    system liquidity what are we looking at
    here a few things uh part of the things
    we expect ordinarily liquidity remains
    tight we’re going to see we expect
    yields to or discount rates to you know
    print a little higher we’ve seen that on
    the 9 1 day and the 182 day paper those
    ones are pretty sticky and pretty stable
    the last 91 day Clos at 16.24 and the
    182 days closed at 177% while the one
    year closed at um 20.7% however given
    where system liquidity is and what on
    offer we expect that uh the 91 days and
    the 182 days May remain constant but the
    one year could you know track upwards
    closer to 21% or slightly over that
    depending on how uh desperate um
    investors are or if liquidity sort of
    like improves before the end of today
    there is expectations that you know
    there could be the F allocations could
    be paid into the market today or at
    least tomorrow that would also you know
    impact liquidity and it will then uh
    determine how you know people will be at
    the auction uh now just speaking of
    liquidity speaking of you know gains and
    we well it’s more like declines now it’s
    looking like the world’s best performing
    currency uh which which is the NAA which
    was the best performing currency in
    April is taking a breeder from his
    monthlong rally as we seen the dollar
    strengthening and sending chills down
    the spines of Emerging Markets from
    Nigeria as well and the naira is seem to
    be moving from about 1,50 n from last
    week close to about 1,250 n this week
    what’s driving this what are the major
    drivers and like you mentioned it’s the
    best performing currency and because it
    is best performing is why we’re seeing
    what we call take profit you know the n
    strengthened about 30% over the last
    what almost a month it’s only natural
    for the people that provided that uh
    liquidity to take some profit take for
    example many of the fpis came into the
    market around 16 17 and then the Nar
    strengthen to about ,100 1,150 or
    thereabouts look at that spread between
    where they came into the market and
    where the market is currently you know
    they’ve already made 30% within two
    months you know I think every smart
    Trader knows what to do is to take
    profit rather than wait for the markets
    to take take out all of that profit so
    that’s what’s happening it’s simply um
    foreign portfolio investors repatriating
    some of the funds they brought in so
    we’re seen all prices dipping and this
    is you know bustering the dollar because
    the dollar is really strengthening
    because the FED might not be cutting rat
    anytime soon do you think this is going
    to be a sustained pattern do you see the
    n i mean the naira devaluing or
    declining further in the near term
    interes CBN continues to you know
    intervene at the market at different
    times you know today we understand
    they’re selling to uh bdcs you know and
    they will probably come to the inter
    Market at some point even though you
    know the governor said they don’t want
    to be the highest supplier of dollars to
    the market they’ll continue to find ways
    to stimulate foreign investors this is
    why we think interest rates in the fixed
    income space will remain elevated just
    so that they can attract you know um
    more dollar portfolio investors so with
    that sort of Supply coming into the
    market we don’t think the will
    depreciate tooo much it could continue
    to lose some value and then at some
    point it will become attractive for
    entry again for more portfolio investors
    especially as our interest rates on our
    you know government SECU remain elevated
    okay still speaking of the government
    and the plans to you know attract more
    for Forex into the market see is
    planning it’s maing Forex foreign
    currency denominated Bond issuance in
    the month of June as right around the
    corner what makes this debut Forex Bond
    scheduled for the second quarter
    different from the regular hero bonds
    I’m sure would would like to know what
    the difference is and what you know
    interest it holds for
    investors all right so so first off Euro
    bonds are what dollar denominated bonds
    but they’re issued outside your country
    which means Nigeria issues raises an
    instrument in dollars and it trades it
    in in outside its country maybe in
    London or in New York those are Euro
    bonds however if Nigeria issues a dollar
    denominated bonds that is traded locally
    maybe on the ngx on fmdq or on other
    platforms locally that becomes a Forex
    Bond you know and that is what this bond
    is about it’s the first of its kind
    being that it to be a dollar Bond but
    issued locally here in Nigeria the
    federal government is targeting you know
    Dum balances of many Nigerians you know
    by offering an attractive means of
    investment for them to you know plug all
    those ID balances so to say and that’s
    why that’s what makes this Bond
    different from the Euro Bond and that’s
    what makes it unique and that’s why it’s
    a first of its kind as
    well so what instruments are investors
    currently trading at and what end of the
    curve as we speak right now as we speak
    what are they trading short end mostly
    um the the what what banks are trying to
    do right now is create liquidity um on
    the other side other investors are
    positioning for the primary auction
    tomorrow many of them are interested in
    the oneye paper because that’s where you
    get the best yield pick up right so the
    yields are been around 26 27% for a long
    time we’re expected to still hover
    around that space so that’s where
    investors are looking
    however for banks trying to create
    liquidity many of us are trading the
    short end of the C the main maturity
    just to create liquidity for our
    obligations okay thank you so much KB
    Alim Chief dealer providors bank for
    sharing your thoughts on business in
    corporate it’s good to always have you
    thank you will now let’s look at the
    Middle East markets where major equities
    traded with positive sentiments that
    intro the Abu Dhabi was up 0.05% we see
    Dubai also up at inaday 0.2% still
    within the region Saudi and qari indexes
    traded up over half a percent we see
    0.54% and 0.51% now let’s look at the US
    markets where we see stock futures and
    higher you know in Pre in pre-market
    trade in early trade today the S&P
    snapped The Six Day losing streak
    boosted by Rebound in tech stocks we see
    the S&P 0.08% up dgon is up 0.07% Nasdaq
    futures 0.14% up now we’re seeing this
    markets really boosting and we seeing
    Tesla also going to be issuing I mean
    report’s earnings today and investors
    are going to be seeing what’s going to
    be coming out from that stock because
    the stock price is already down more
    than 40% as as we speak and we’ll just
    look at Asia markets right now and see
    very quickly what’s happening in the
    Asian market nay 25 in Japan is up 0.3%
    it’s closed trade for Tuesday very well
    in the green the cby in South Korea is
    down 0.24% hang Tech index that’s in
    outside China shows is 1.92% of near 2%
    up we see mainland China Shanghai
    composite let’s look at that quickly is
    down
    0.74% and we see the S&P ASX 200 in
    Australia
    0.45% up markets are not doing badly in
    that region especially from Tex G the
    gains from Mondays um in the tech sector
    on rebound on Wall Street investors are
    assessing this flash business activity
    and they’re just you know buying into
    the stock so L with all this happening
    in this market right now it’s kind of
    like this is the right time you talked
    about Tesla if this is the right time
    for investors to come into Tesla I think
    this might be the right time because
    speaking from what analysts are saying
    we discussing earlier yes for the year
    so this is probably the right moment to
    get into Tesla and you know but you
    don’t want to catch a falling knife at
    this point can’t find you don’t know
    where the bottom will be at this point
    no risk no gain L exactly and yeah
    Justin Caleb actually confirmed that
    while we’re talking to him that the CBN
    is ring Forex sales to bdcs
    at21 n you know per dollar you at this
    time because we’ve already been getting
    complaints you know from friends around
    me talking about the N is weakening
    again is weaking again but I guess this
    will put them to rest yes defin and we
    selling at
    1,21 coming in with that surprise today
    all right thank you so much will there
    for giving us the details uh from the
    markets all right let’s um get a sense
    of what’s happening in Europe now we see
    German engineering that for decades
    that’s um used to be um shorthand for
    high quality in machine building uh
    whether it was turbines to autos and
    still today engineering is one of the
    main drivers of the German economy this
    week everyone with stake in German
    engineering is meeting at the Hanover m
    one of the world’s largest trade shows
    for the sector let’s talk to L Halton
    now um L with DW what’s your first
    impression you know of this show
    thanks for having me L it’s actually
    quite impressive how the trade show has
    changed over the years like you said
    this event used to be all about big
    machines turbines and such it was all
    about how to build them and how big they
    can be built and today it’s all about
    how to build them cleaner and more
    sustainable the green energy transition
    is playing a major role in Handover as
    is AI of course that is maybe the number
    one topic these days and it’s also
    something that Chancellor Olaf Schultz
    tried out when he opened the event at
    the booth of German industrial giant
    seens he tried to interact with a
    robotic arm operated by Ai and that went
    just about as well as you would imagine
    Schulz wanted the machine to go faster
    he said it a few times and nothing
    happened well eventually the thing sped
    up a bit but it was all a bit
    underwhelming let’s hope this won’t
    become a symbol for this year’s event or
    even worse for how Germany will Faire in
    that sector in future all right how is
    Germany doing an AI and and Engineering
    these
    days well engineering is still a solid
    business here it’s bringing in around
    250 billion EUR in revenues that’s
    actually up from 200 billion in 2020 so
    at first glance all is Peachy but
    actually analysts are expecting a
    decline this year and the question is
    always of course are we keeping up with
    other countries Chancellor Schultz seems
    to know this and he says he wants to
    work towards the country investing more
    in research and development including by
    changing the rules on how the German uh
    retirement fund Works Schultz wants the
    government to be allowed to invest
    monies in that fund on the open market
    uh that’s more risky than traditional
    investment in government bonds of course
    but it could bring a better return on
    investment and it could also direct more
    money to startups and other businesses
    who might need funding he also wants to
    motivate Germany’s most wealthy people
    to invest more actively don’t know
    exactly how he wants to do that but it
    would obviously be a great opportunity
    for them as well as for the industry
    especially small and Innovative
    companies in the fields of tech in
    general but also AI in particular can
    have a hard time sometimes having access
    to the capital they need and any
    Improvement here would certainly help
    and what are investors looking at in
    today’s markets in
    well here in Germany we’re in the midst
    of earning season and that as the Ducks
    had some weaker days it was doing a bit
    better yesterday to start of the week
    and it’s heading closer to 18,000 points
    again now why is this important because
    18,000 points is a pretty lofty level
    for the German stock market index it is
    based on the Assumption by many analyst
    that the country’s top 40 companies
    those that are listed in the Dax will
    make more money into 2024 really than
    ever before record profits record share
    price the problem is so far many
    companies haven’t quite delivered what
    was expected software and cloud
    computing giant sap actually did deliver
    last night but some investors generally
    see the market on Shaky Ground anyway
    all right thank you so much as last Hal
    to give those the details from Europe we
    take a quick break now while we come
    back we head straight to the Commodities
    market update
    all right let’s look at the Commodities
    markets space now we see rice a widely
    consumed staple uh constitutes about 8%
    of food basket uh for the CPI and is
    also significantly consumed during um
    celebrations well in a bag of 50 kg rice
    uh that Trad about 98,000 December 2023
    recently in April see the price per bag
    that’s dropped to around
    88,000 Nair and we’ve heard about you
    know further drops you know in some
    parts joining us now is Tera Kuma
    manager economic research at FDC great
    to have you on the
    show Good afternoon thank you very much
    for having me right so we’re talking
    about um prices of diesel you know
    coming down now we’re looking at Rice
    I’ve seen a trend um going on uh right
    now do you think this is sustainable for
    Rice thank you very much and what you
    read is is correct in December 2023 rice
    was around
    98,000 now we have about
    88,000 that was about 10.2% drop of of a
    bag of
    rice yeah the argument might be that
    factors affecting the price of rice will
    be local production level or or global
    market conditions but let’s let’s take a
    a a a micro Zoom to what happening in in
    the
    market recently we we noticed that there
    have been a shift in consumption of rice
    to Noodles consumption by the the Young
    Generation and one will be wondering
    what is the ti is is no a subtitute for
    for Rise what is leading to those things
    noodles is easier to to to
    prepare it’s an end product because you
    don’t need to consume noodles with with
    any commodity and you also it’s more
    convenient for for mothers the children
    are not concerned about the price but
    the mothers working mothers are more
    concerned about their time so it’s
    quicker to prepare so but but in R you
    compare that to Rice it takes longer
    time to prepare and rice has it’s a it’s
    a joint product with things like tomato
    and pepper and other stuff that you need
    to combine to consume your R so in that
    case there been an increase in in
    tomatoes pepper and other things you
    combin with rice the increase in the
    price of those things is likely going to
    affect the the demand for right so these
    are joint product so as the price of one
    commodity increases then we like going
    to see the the the the deand for the for
    the compliment product so this is what
    is likely going to happen to so in the
    near future we we are seeing a shift
    from the consumption of rice to Noodles
    if that continues then the price of R is
    obviously going to to stay low and
    and so I guess this is because demand is
    dropping I guess because demand is
    dropping that’s why we’re seeing the
    price of rice that’s according to what
    you just um told me but we know Nigeria
    is the third highest importer of M rice
    in the World Imported about 2 million
    metric tons um of rice into the country
    why is Nigeria still you know depending
    on imported
    rice yeah as of data available to
    us local production of rice in N about
    57% so we have a huge gap of 43% so
    where do that Gap come from where does
    it come from they we need to fill up
    that Gap the the population of Nigeria
    is going faster than what we prod
    how do we F the nation what it means is
    that we producing less than what we
    consume so what happened in the last 5
    years under the previous administration
    when the borders were closed the borders
    were not shocked what happened was that
    it was more expensive to import rice so
    the cost of importing rice into the
    country was transferred to the final
    final consum but now that the borders
    are
    open we’re going to be seeing
    drop in oil in in the in the price of of
    rice because the market is not open the
    cost of importation will not reduce the
    issue here is that with the Border
    opening there will be high competition
    because rice is not available in the
    market
    that one we ask is the local the local
    producers are they ready they have the
    competitor ability to compete with
    Global Market players in in right
    production
    like
    India Vietnam China and the rest if when
    the Border was was sh was closed against
    importation of rice if these local
    producers don’t have the capacity to to
    compete with foreign
    investors Global producers who have low
    average cost by production there’s going
    to be a a problem in the economy the the
    price of R will come
    but local producers will be affected
    because if they can’t compete favorably
    with their Global competitors then
    becomes a problem to domestic producers
    okay all right we’ll keep tracking the
    price um there to see if we can see a
    further drop I’m going forward thank you
    so much ter Kuma managing manager
    economic research at Financial
    derivatives company thank you thank you
    for having me all right let’s get a
    check on out the stories now we see the
    quantity of secondhand clothes imported
    from China
    into Kenya that’s their main source of
    popular lowcost um used clothing that’s
    jumped about
    86% in the first quarter of this year
    signaling increased um demand data from
    Chinese authorities shows that the
    country exported about
    31,000 um tons of secondhand clothing
    and accessories to Kenya between January
    and March 2024 uh valued about
    22.73
    million and South Africans are paying
    significantly more on their bonds and to
    service their debts due to the South
    African Reserve bank’s interest rate
    hikes uh this is the view of the
    economist Professor Bon dumisa who told
    the business Des that South Africa’s
    High interest rates can be avoided in
    November 2021 the sb’s monetary policy
    committee initiated its current um
    hiking cycle in a response to concerning
    optic in a country’s inflation rates
    take a
    listen I P
    align myself with the sentiments
    expressed by Dr rulu
    baa on the issue of the many rorate
    hikes that the South African Reserve
    Banks um monetary policy
    committee imposed on us when they raised
    the repor rate
    from
    3.5% in November in October
    2021 to its
    highest
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    8.25% by
    May
    2023 some of those repor rate hikes
    could have been avoided because they
    were totally unnecessary in fact they
    were
    counterproductive because the repor rate
    hikes or interest rate hikes were meant
    to be used to
    discourage
    widespread credit purchasing because
    widespread credit
    purchasing is
    inflationary so when people are buying a
    lot of things using
    credit that increases the prices because
    there’s higher demand for those goods
    When there’s less money to pay for them
    so the best way then to discourage that
    tendency is by increasing the repo rate
    or interest rates and then people buy
    less on
    credit but it was not the case in many
    of the in many of the instances where
    the rep rate was increased in South
    Africa over the past three years
    because our our raer rates were
    increased because
    of the attack on Ukraine by Russia
    amongst other
    things pushed up the prices of brand
    crude oil it moved from below 858 us per
    barrel too close to $140 Us
    barrel and that had the negative
    consequence of pushing up our fuel
    prices in South Africa and those prices
    went up not because people were buying
    more on credit but because the of the in
    Sky roting International brand crude oil
    prices
    all right now let’s um head on to
    another conversation we see the
    e-commerce um industry in Africa’s
    forecast is surpass half a billion um
    users by 2025 which will have a a steady
    177% compound annual growth rate of
    online um consumers let’s um drill in on
    those numbers now um join us is W Adisa
    chief operations um officer at Omni
    retail great to have you the
    show nice to be here L right right quite
    a quite an interesting forecast there
    we’re seeing for the um e-commerce um
    users but how’s the e-commerce space
    fairing you know at this time you know
    with countries dealing with you know
    High inflation and and High Cost of
    Living interesting question um it’s um
    it depends um there quite a um there’s
    opportunities um the the the issues
    itself brings brings opportunities for
    us um because what we do uh as you know
    is We Stand between manufacturers
    and uh retailers and ensure that both
    parties get greatest um value from from
    that relationship uh and so at this
    point in time with the um retailers
    requiring more support with retailers
    requiring access to credit with
    retailers requiring to work more closely
    with with manufacturers uh it’s it’s a
    perfect time uh for the B2B uh
    e-commerce players to to to you know to
    to to to to play in the market it’s it’s
    it’s it’s a great time all right talk to
    me about um the climate you know some
    afcan countries as a business climate
    we’ve seen you know some e-commerce
    platforms you know exit uh Nigeria you
    know a couple of years now but what do
    you think you know is a problem why why
    are they not you know able to scale you
    know in some countries in Africa so so
    so look it’s it’s basically about the
    business model you you you you operate
    with um so the different players have
    come into the space operating in
    different ways uh some players have been
    very um asset heavy you know coming into
    the space buying Vans um you know
    renting warehouses and B basically um
    you know spending a lot of money um our
    approach has been a bit different we’ve
    been very asset liked uh and the reason
    why is the retail space itself is a low
    margin space and it’s you’ve got to
    build your business in a manner in a way
    that um you are able to partner and take
    advantage of the existing players so we
    call ourselves a network of networks um
    because we you know whether it be
    warehousing or it be last mile delivery
    or even in lending because we do do that
    even in lending to retailers to um buy
    more products we partner with
    established uh Banks uh dfis we partner
    with established uh with people who want
    to do who have Vans want to do
    deliveries we partner with people who
    have um you know warehousing space and
    are looking to plug into our ecosystem
    to generate value for themselves and so
    I think that is that’s really what’s
    been happening you know prior like a
    year ago when there was a lot of capital
    chasing um opportunities um you could um
    you could afford to be not as efficient
    um and so what has happened is is a lot
    of the players who have exited um
    because of their model we’re not as
    capital efficient as you know when with
    when when the external environment
    changed and so that’s I think is really
    the reason why but for us we’ve been
    profitable since uh I think end of last
    year like November so we think our model
    makes sense we think it’s the right one
    for for Africa if you can if you can do
    this in N I think you can do it anywhere
    in continent right quite interesting
    less Capital chasing opportunities at
    this time thank you so much it was great
    having you share your thoughts here as W
    ad chief operations officer at Omni
    retail thank you so much thank you very
    much l it was it was it was uh a
    pleasure to be here thank you all right
    now let’s um head straight to other
    markets now’s get a sense of what’s
    happening in the crypto Market we did
    see Bitcoin you know trying to get back
    up to levels I seen before but now we’re
    seeing $
    66,1 188 and that’s for bit coin some
    green on the screen at this time but
    it’s mostly red uh right now we see ton
    there deep in red Solana still in green
    um territory so um most of those uh
    cryptocurrencies that we saw you know
    give up some of that profit we’re seeing
    them you know try to inch back up you
    know at this time um let’s get to our
    first uh conversation um now we have FEI
    um Adu now he’s a CEO uh founder of
    bechain Africa joining me via Zoom great
    to have you on the show
    thank you very much l how you doing
    today I’m doing great um we’re seeing uh
    most you know countries at this time
    know struggle when it comes to you know
    the currency market we’ve seen Zimbabwe
    coming up with gold back you know
    currency we’ve seen Nigeria we’ve seen
    The Nair actually you know appreciate at
    this time but we’ve seen um some
    cryptocurrency exchanges being blamed
    for um speculation you know against most
    of the currencies so how do you balance
    this yeah are the cryptocurrency
    exchanges really the
    problem um definitely not the problem
    right um a lot of the crypto exchanges
    are just service providers they are
    providing a platform for people to do
    business exchange their cryptocurrencies
    or Bitcoin and usdt for for naira and
    this doesn’t just happen in in Nigeria
    alone because you know um for example
    binance that has really been taking the
    Heats operates in a lot of countries
    hundreds of countries around the world
    so Nigeria is just one of them and they
    have a large user base in Nigeria but um
    I think that
    it’s actually a misplaced priority
    trying to blame a particular company for
    the downfall of our naira you know
    Nigeria is actually an import driven
    economy right 0% of the things we use in
    Nigeria imported so if we’re going to
    blame binance then there’s no basis that
    to which why the executives are going to
    be detained um for me that is um um
    being to ignorance that’s what I’m going
    to say being to ignorant I think that
    the government should look out for how
    binance and all those crypto exchanges
    should register in Nigeria and create
    jobs you know and of course they can tax
    these companies I think that’s actually
    a smart way to handle these issues if
    the naira is devaluing of course it
    means that our Imports are far greater
    than our exports thank you all right but
    but at this time we do know you know
    regulation is a major problem when it
    comes to you know cryptocurrency market
    and most of these exchanges we know some
    of them do not um play you know
    according to uh the rules you know some
    of them you know most of the platforms
    are being used for illegal
    you know purposes at this time but what
    kind of Regulation do you think we
    should be exploring you know right now
    when it comes to you know this crypto
    exchanges okay like see bance is already
    start in the US um I think it’s also reg
    start in some other countries as well
    but I don’t think there is anything like
    binance Nigeria limited or anything at
    all you know so the first thing to
    regulate a particular Market is to make
    sure that there are proper registrations
    with the corporate Affairs commission
    that is step one then when you reg start
    here they should have face office here
    right so that if there’s any discrepancy
    between the government and the private
    you know sector they can have some
    deliberations and everything can be
    trashed out immediately I don’t think
    the approach used by the government to
    track down and clamp down all crypto
    exchange exactly the problem because you
    can see today the naira is actually
    going back to almost 1,300 naira so it
    is not you know the the blames being
    passed upon the crypto exchanges I think
    the policy makers especially the
    coordinating minister of the economy Mr
    W Ed needs to look out for a um a
    scenario where by we can have you know
    discussions you know with this private
    sector players you know sometimes it is
    not because the even the platform knows
    about some of all these bad deals right
    but whatever happens Nigerians are still
    going to use cryptocurrency whether they
    like it or not right it has come to stay
    so the government has to look at ways
    whereby they can come to sit down with
    the private sector players and the
    service providers and say okay yeah we
    want to regulate this particular
    environment now can we have a particular
    dialogue and see how we can you know
    move this forward rather than trying to
    clam down I think Nigeria can easily
    make more money from profits um taxing
    this companies I’m telling to leave the
    country all right I’m talking about the
    Nira we’ve seen the Central Bank
    intervening at this time selling to BC’s
    about 1,21 n so I guess markets might be
    expecting the N to strengthen you know
    at this side but thank you so much thank
    youu CEO founder bjain Africa thank you
    so much that’s a time we have right now
    all right that’s the show today remember
    you can visit Channel tv.com for more
    updates I’m L Williams from mini team
    right here channels HQ it’s bye for now
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