DOJ Calls Bitcoin Money (Samourai Wallet)

    this is Matthew crder from Bitcoin
    University today I want to talk about
    how the US Department of Justice the doj
    has just called Bitcoin money this is a
    little bit of a tongue-and-cheek
    headline here’s the real headline
    Founders and CEO of cryptocurrency
    mixing service arrested and charged with
    money laundering there’s that word money
    and unlicensed money transmited offenses
    if you’ve spent any time in the Bitcoin
    space you probably have heard about
    Samurai wallet these are the two guys
    who just got arrested killed Rodriguez
    and William lonin Hill the defendants
    develop marketed and operated
    cryptocurrency mixing service known as
    samurai samurai according to the
    complaint un unlawfully combined
    multiple unique features to execute
    Anonymous Financial transactions valued
    at over two billion in cryptocurrency
    and here’s the problem while offering
    Samurai as a quote unquote privacy
    service the defendants knew that it was
    a Haven for criminals to engage in
    largescale moneya laundering and
    sanctions evasion a substantial portion
    of the funds at Samurai processed were
    criminal proceeds passed through Samurai
    for purposes of concealment indeed
    during the relevant period Samurai
    laundered over 100 million dollars of
    crime proceeds originating from among
    other criminal sources illegal dark web
    markets such as silkroad and hydr Market
    various wire fraud and Computer Fraud
    schemes including a web server intrusion
    so here’s I think an interesting
    statistic and we flip it on its head we
    can say that
    95% of activity on Samurai was legal
    while only 5 % was essentially money
    laundering using Bitcoin as we as we’ve
    always said Bitcoin is primarily used by
    law- abiding people but I was actually
    surprised by these numbers that only 100
    million was bad money quote unquote bad
    money and the other 95% was being used
    for presumably legal purposes now here’s
    the samurai wallet website we can see
    here that’s been taken down by the US
    government it’s important to distinguish
    between mixers and coin joins a mixer is
    something like this the Fiat cash
    version would be you give all your $20
    bills to a guy you don’t know and then
    he gives you each back a different $20
    bill this process is custodial in other
    words you temporarily give up ownership
    of your money by contrast coin join is a
    collaborative Bitcoin transaction you
    enter into it with other people you have
    multiple inputs to the transaction and
    multiple outputs and what coin joins
    seek to do the same thing as mixing they
    seek to give you better forward privacy
    because just like in the mixer you don’t
    get the same $20 Bill back now the
    danger of this of course in the Fiat
    system is you get the wrong kind of Bill
    but for coin join these are fresh
    outputs from the Bitcoin transaction and
    unlike mixing or mixers you don’t give
    up custody of your Bitcoin in a coin
    join coin joins are very visible on
    chain you can see inputs like this very
    equal inputs and equal outputs the
    reason that the inputs are slightly
    higher is to pay either the coordinator
    who does the coin join or in this case
    it’s more likely to pay the minor trans
    transaction fee if you’re enjoying this
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    a friend or family member now here’s
    another way of thinking about coin join
    and the Privacy that it gives you for
    example when I go to an ATM and I take a
    take out US dollars cash the bank knows
    how much money I have withdrawn but what
    the bank does not know is where I end up
    spending and when I end up spending this
    cash so us cash has good forward privacy
    and there’s nothing illegal about this
    in itself this is in fact one reason why
    the US government is obviously trying to
    phase out cash but using coin join with
    Bitcoin can give you similar good
    forward privacy when sending or spending
    Bitcoin I believe it should be legal for
    people to use coin joins to give
    themselves forward privacy with their
    own legally obtained Bitcoin but doing a
    coin join with il legally obtained
    Bitcoin maybe you’ve stolen it maybe
    it’s proceeds from some illegal activity
    illegal drug or terrorist activity Etc
    in order to hide its origin doing a coin
    join with illegally obtained Bitcoin in
    order to hide its origin that’s clearly
    money laundering under current
    definition so I think it’s important to
    distinguish between these two things at
    the outset here’s a really unfair thing
    though there is a double standard at
    work where certain groups are allowed to
    do money laundering and their websites
    don’t get taken down Pentagon failing
    its audit for the sixth uh year in a row
    Etc so there is a bit of a double
    standard at work here what was Samurai
    wallet’s biggest mistake I think it was
    probably their thumbing their noses at
    powerful actors on Twitter for example
    this is from June 30th 2022 welcome new
    Russian oligarch Samurai wallet users
    this is clearly something that it’s not
    smart to put on Twitter and this
    particular tweet did end up in the
    department of Justice’s uh uh complaint
    uh they have a snapshot a screenshot of
    that uh tweet
    if you use this is for users of Samurai
    wallet if you use Samurai’s Whirlpool
    through Sparrow wallet or using your own
    dojo and other words you did not use it
    through their app then your xubs were
    not on the servers that were confiscated
    in Iceland you may still want to assume
    that your mixes have been or will be
    demixed or your coin joins be uncoin
    joined for example if the FBI knows four
    participants in a 5 person round of coin
    join then they can Deon de anonymize
    your transaction if you’re using Samurai
    on your phone through the app for
    example you can use your recovery seat
    in a new wallet and then use that wallet
    to send funds to a wallet controlled by
    different new recovery seed this is of
    course not advised to criminals at all
    I’m only speaking to people who are coin
    joining their own legally obtained
    Bitcoin for obvious reasons this is not
    something as you probably noticing this
    is not something that I talk about much
    on YouTube for fear of similar
    misunderstandings if you want to be part
    of this discussion you have to go to my
    website which is a safer place to
    discuss these things I want to end by
    emphasizing that I believe that privacy
    is a fundamental human right and this is
    one problem with many of our modern laws
    Desiring privacy should never be taken
    to mean that you have something to hide
    it’s very stupid to say well I don’t
    care about privacy because I have
    nothing to hide that’s a little bit like
    saying as people have said I don’t care
    about Free Speech because I have nothing
    to say I think it’s similar here’s an
    easy example of privacy things that go
    on in the bathroom or in the bedroom for
    example are almost never illegal but
    they do deserve full privacy as Eric
    Hughes puts forward in The Cypher Punk’s
    Manifesto privacy is necessary for an
    open Society in the electronic age
    privacy is not secrecy A Private Matter
    is something one doesn’t want the whole
    world to know but a secret matter is
    something one doesn’t want anybody to
    know privacy and I think this is
    important privacy is the power to
    selectively reveal R oneself to the
    world you should have a choice how much
    is revealed to the world about yourself
    now Bitcoin itself is pseudonymous at
    the base layer it’s not Anonymous this
    is a common misunderstanding but Bitcoin
    can still be used in a really Anonymous
    way you just have to learn how the tools
    work Bitcoin can also be used in this
    stupidly public way that leaks enormous
    amounts of privacy so I’d say it’s very
    important to learn how to use the tools
    that exist I’ve taught how to use
    Sparrow wallet on this channel and that
    was uh not surprisingly one way of
    accessing Samurai whirpool we’re going
    to have to come up with a different
    method now but learn to use the tools
    that exist learn utxo management learn
    how Bitcoin works at a deep level so you
    can use it in a private Manner and
    protect your family now a lot of people
    on Twitter saying does this mean uh you
    should store your wealth in Bitcoin and
    then use Monero for spending for
    spending privacy I’d say definitely not
    because swapping back and forth between
    Monero and Bitcoin can leak privacy in
    itself as Monero Advocates themselves
    admit if you’re swapping Bitcoin for
    Monero frequently it could leak some
    information Monero is unfortunately not
    the solution to this Monero suffers from
    not having a circular economy and Monero
    also suffers from the fact that no one
    wants to huddle it we can see Monero
    still down even after news like this
    this is the chart of Monero versus
    Bitcoin so this is one problem this is
    why people want to huddle Bitcoin
    instead of Monero because Monero is
    proven itself to be a very poor store of
    value for the past few years so Bitcoin
    is what we have Bitcoin is the future
    and hopefully this will drive uh the
    development of more privacy tools going
    forward and more awareness of these
    issues as well as perhaps some more
    humility on Twitter and YouTube as well
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    In this video, I discuss the arrest of the Samourai Wallet founders, and what it means for privacy and Bitcoin.

    Not investment advice! Consult a financial advisor.

    Founders And CEO Of Cryptocurrency Mixing Service Arrested:
    https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/founders-and-ceo-cryptocurrency-mixing-service-arrested-and-charged-money-laundering

    JPMorgan and Deutsche Bank Named in Money Laundering Report:
    https://www.thestreet.com/investing/jpmorgan-jpm-deutsche-bank-db-money-laundering-report

    Pentagon fails audit for sixth year in a row:
    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pentagon-fails-audit-sixth-year-row-2023-11-16/

    Samourai Wallet poking the bear on Twitter:

    A Cypherpunk’s Manifesto:
    https://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/manifesto.html

    Swapping Bitcoin for Monero hurts privacy:
    https://decrypt.co/214367/did-law-enforcement-crack-privacy-coin-monero-its-complicated

    Why Monero is a hot potato:

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    2. The developers, exchange owners or crypto users that solve financial problems by cryptocurrencies can be arrested mainly if the solution is anonymity or privacy! They must be like satoshi nakamoto, publish all anonymously!

    3. Money laundering presupposes the state has a right to know your every transaction. It doesn't. This is an attack on privacy and sovereignty. They are slowly boiling the frog. Soon it will be, you don't have a right to transact at all. Get ready to fight for your freedoms.

    4. Ironic how the criminal powers that be consider reactions to their system as a crime. The courts seem useless these days, also owned and sold out long ago. The executive and legislative branch can bully society and it takes months or years for the courts to respond, if at all.

    5. Thanks and keep the great videos coming. The Samourai guys are serious privacy advocates and this is interesting stuff. Looking forward to content on Knots in future videos.

    6. How much privacy does swaping out of lightning give? I can't imagine how they could connect which channel opening was pushed out to do it.
      Perfect I spent it boating accident wrong invoice payed?

    7. DO NOT USE SAMOURI WALLET!!!!! I once almost had some bitcoin stolen from me off the app. Luckily whoever hacked my app tried to move it with a 1 sat/vb transaction fee so it eventually came back to my wallet. I know it was the app that got hacked as well because after I got my btc back and moved it the app turned into a calculator app lol. Was a super weird experience….

    8. Hot topic! This will get interesting in the coming months as the legal case plays out.
      Matt…putting in another plug for Stratum V2 discussion. This needs more visibility. Not saying pro or con, but the fact that this proposal is even out there, especially in light of recent information about how the sausage is made with mining pools, this needs more awareness. Thanks.

    9. Matt, what's your thought on mining pool centralization? Why are pools so slow to adopt SV2? I recently heard on a recent TFTC podcast that some of the largest mining pools are actually the same entity. Is there anything we noderunners can do, aside changing the hashing algorithm?

    10. Just opened up my samourai wallet. My funds appear for a brief second but then go to zero. There are no outgoing transactions to cause this, and I've never used coinjoin. I tried putting the 12 words into the Blockstream Green wallet, but it shows no transaction history. I'm very confused here.

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