Supreme Court hears Trump immunity claim, New York trial latest and more | The Daily Report

Supreme Court hears Trump immunity claim, New York trial latest and more | The Daily Report

report for April 25th 2024 I’m John
Dickerson our rundown could be the
curriculum for a semester of law school
the main action was at the Supreme Court
weighing when and why an ex-president
can be prosecuted Where’s the Line a
president must be free to act but not
above the law Donald Trump’s case was an
issue but all 237 years of the history
of the presidency were up for discussion
said Justice Gorsuch we’re writing a
rule for the ages yes but what does that
mean for Trump’s criminal case that was
also the question about the testimony in
a New York courtroom Thursday former
National Inquirer Ally David pecker
detailed how he turned the Tabloid into
an arm of the 2016 Trump campaign
unindicted co-conspirator 1 is how new
Arizona indictments refer to the former
president they detail an alleged 2020
fake elector scheme to overturn the
election and in other overturning news
the top Court in New York overturned
producer Harvey Weinstein’s New York sex
crimes conviction saying he didn’t
receive a fair trial can those without
Hollywood money fight back if they’re
wronged 10 years after the Flint Water
Crisis we sent a correspondent to see if
the residents there think they’ve been
treated justly and we’ve got stories
about issues sure to show up in court
new regulations on coal plant emissions
FCC rules for the internet opioid
liability and in the absence of law
there is only War Deborah po covers an
Aid worker risking everything in Gaza
and we’ll build on Wednesday night’s
conversation on National Security
threats with author David Sanger and
finally a Japanese skier flew more than
the length of three football fields
smashing the existing record uh or did
he the lawyers are involved in that one
too we’ll explain why the daily report
begins in a moment
hello thank you for joining us we begin
our report with a historic and
consequential argument before The
Supreme Court Justices will soon rule on
Donald Trump’s claim that presidents are
immune from Criminal prosecution for
acts taken in office the case centers
around Trump and whether he acted in an
official capacity when he attempted to
overturn the 2020 presidential election
on and before January 6 2021 special
counsel Jack Smith says a president’s
constitutional duty is to Faithfully
execute the laws not violate them the
discussion from justices on both
ideological sides reached back to the
very founding of the American system
here’s liberal Justice Elena Kagan
framers did not put an Immunity Clause
into the Constitution they didn’t
provide immunity to the president and
you know not so surprising they were
reacting against a monarch who claimed
to be above the law wasn’t the whole
point that the president was not a
monarch and the president was not
supposed to be above the law for more
let’s bring in CBS News legal
contributor Rebecca Roy Rebecca what did
you make of the uh debate today well
this is indeed a consequential and
important uh argument that went on today
I think that you know it’s very
interesting how there are two looming
issues one is how will this affect Jack
Smith’s prosecution of the former
president and the other that many of the
justices want to focus on is what are
the implications for the presidency in
the future and those seem like they’re
on two different um timelines um because
at at at times the the justices and and
particularly the conservative justices
seem to be saying you know sure the
details of this case but we’re talking
about for all time here and they seem to
be making a distinction between um
public acts and private acts why is that
a significant distinction for them well
it seemed like almost all of the
justices if not all of them were about
to reject the former president’s claim
that presidents have absolute immunity
and were more interested in drawing a
line between official acts which they
believe that presidents should have
immunity for so that they are not
hampered in making their decisions and
private acts that don’t deserve that
kind of immunity and so could they uh
the justices it seem let’s say there’s a
maybe a conservative um support for sort
of making this distinction more clear
how if there was that where would that
go how does that what is the next step
in in the situation yeah that is that
that is a question that remains so is
this an answer that will eat up time
delay the um proceedings such that
there’s will be no chance to really
prosecute to the finality um the former
president or will the prosecutors be
able to go forward with some kind of um
compromise where perhaps they drop some
of the um arguably official acts that
the president is charged with and
proceed with the ones that that he’s
that are clearly private in nature and
one of the arguments that the Department
of Justice was making is um there are
already accommodations in law to make
sure that a president isn’t railroaded I
mean there was a lot of um hypotheticals
about well how could this be used in the
wrong hands um what did you make of that
argument from the Department of Justice
so the Department of Justice was trying
to suggest we don’t need presidential
immunity because there are built-in
already in the laws kind of defenses for
instance you could claim an advice of
councel defense and in for a lot of
official acts a president will have
consulted the Department of Justice the
office of legal counsel and gotten a
legal opinion that what they are
proceeding to do is lawful and so that
would form a defense that would in the
um in Jacks Smith’s uh uh argument would
uh protect them in the future and so
they wouldn’t need this kind of immunity
is there an obligation for the justices
to um deal with the fact that there’s a
live case sitting in front of them or
does all of this talk about making
decisions for all eternity allow them to
point their eyes to the Horizon and not
have to really worry about this timeline
question you already mentioned yeah no
of course they are um constrained by the
case in front of them but how they
decide that case they have a lot of
leeway for doing that so they can decide
in a very narrow way that addresses just
the issues that are before the where
they can decide in a broader way that
has bigger implications for cases that
come in the future or for the presidency
and how it’s conducted in the future all
right CBS News legal contributor Rebecca
Roy thank you so much thank you in Mr
Trump’s New York criminal trial the
former head of the national Inquirer
David pecker was back on the stand
Michael George has a recap of the day’s
events Donald Trump began his day with a
campaign
stop before heading to the courthouse
the former president greeted supporters
at a Manhattan construction site and
complained about his treatment in court
they’ve taken my constitutional right
away with a gag order that’s all it is
it’s election interference from there it
was back to his criminal trial where the
former president is accused of
falsifying business records to cover up
a hush money payment to porn star Stormy
Daniels David pecker returned to the
witness stand the longtime tabloid
publisher said he worked with Trump to
buy damaging stories and then squash
them during the 2016 presidential race
he said when Daniels was selling her
story he turned it down but that he told
Trump’s fixer Michael Cohen that he
should buy it and take it off the market
prosecutors say the so-called catch and
kill scheme was a crime the reason the
government says it’s illegal was because
it was done specifically to influence
the 2016 election Keep information from
the public the former president said
this about pecker David’s been very nice
he’s nice guy prosecutors say that was a
message to pecker and another violation
of the judge’s gag order Trump who’s
pleaded not guilty to 34 felony counts
will be back in court on Friday when
pecker returns to the stand Michael
George CBS News New York CBS News
campaign reporter and attorney Katrina
Kaufman joins me now
um pecker talked about the fact that
Donald Trump thanked him uh after the
election invited him to the White House
why was that
important that’s important because it
shows that Trump felt like he sort of ow
David pecker a thank you there was a
meeting at Trump Tower he talked about
where he thanked him for the Karen
McDougall and the doorman story and then
when pecker went to the White House he
brought his business associates and all
of them took pictures at the Oval Office
with Trump and he also talked about how
they walked to dinner past the Rose
Garden together Trump wanted a private
conversation with him and he asked about
how Karen McDougall was doing um another
thing that pecker brought up is that he
said Trump’s family was never mentioned
during the conversations about these
stories because Trump’s team is really
tried to paint this As Trump did this to
not embarrass his family and pecker said
his understanding was this was really
all about the campaign Ivanka and
Melania were never mentioned in these
conversations I want to follow up on
that leaving aside the question of
stories that would hurt Donald Trump
there is also a lot that Pecker’s
testified to about an arrangement they
had where basically pecker would make up
at a whole cloth stories about Trump’s
opponents in the primary really Grim
awful stories to help Trump and then
Trump on the trail having covered him
used those stories to beat up those
opponents yeah he was talking about this
the other day specifically stories about
Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio that really
were essentially fabricated at points
when they were doing well in the poll so
it was really an orchestrated
Arrangement between pecker and Cohen
were dealing with each other in the
campaign and then finally the
cross-examine of examination of pecker
are they poking any holes in his story
so far absolutely I mean for one they’re
they’re trying to show how long ago all
this happen and just poke holes in his
timeline and the way that you remember
conversations but the other thing
they’re trying to show is that the
prosecution’s whole thing is they’re
saying that dating back to this August
2015 meeting they devised this catch and
kill scheme but what Amil boet Trump’s
attorney was saying is that they’ve
actually been doing this for a long time
that I think as long as 17 years before
that meeting pecker was tipping Trump
off about problematic stories and that
he did this did this with other
politicians and celebrities um Tiger
Woods was one of them so they’re trying
to say that it’s not just this incident
this was just a business practice of his
right not about the campaign but just
regular business exactly interesting
business to be in Katrina Kaufman thank
you so much thank you and now to Arizona
the fourth state to charge residents
with trying to overturn Joe Biden’s 2020
election Victory through the use of fake
electors a little reminder the
presidential candidate who wins a
state’s vote receives that State’s
electors which make up the Electoral
College it’s their votes that Congress
certifies to formally elect the
president in 2020 after Donald Trump
lost at The Ballot Box an alleged scheme
was devised in seven of the states that
President Biden won to substitute lawful
electors for Joe Biden with a slate that
would vote for Donald Trump an Arizona
Grand Jury indicted 11 people who signed
on as fake electors among the charges
conspiracy forgery and fraud the group
includes two state senators and the
state’s former Republican party chair
the former president is an unindicted
co-conspirator but many in his Circle
were charged Mark Meadows Trump’s former
Chief of Staff Trump lawyers Rudy
Giuliani and John Eastman also indicted
Christina Bob the current head of
election integrity at the Republican
National
Committee a New York appeals court has
overturned the 2020 rape conviction of
disgraced Hollywood movie producer
Harvey Weinstein the state’s Top Court
ruled that Weinstein didn’t receive a
fair trial which his lawyers echoed at a
press conference Thursday
afternoon there are some people who are
very unpopular in our
society but we still have to apply the
law fairly to them in a 4 to3 decision
the court of appeals found that the
trial judge made a mistake allowing
prosecutors to call witnesses who
accused Weinstein of sexual assault but
part of the charges against him one of
Weinstein’s accusers called the results
unfair this today is an act of
institutional
betrayal and our institutions betray
survivors of male sexual
violence Weinstein will remain in prison
regardless as his 2020 California sex
crimes conviction still
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capturing carbon emissions and turning
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Innovation residential energy use is
responsible for 20% of toal total
greenhouse gas emissions in the US
according to UC Davis but one company is
helping residential buildings reduce
their impact and put carbon to use our
Bradley Blackburn shows us how it
works deep in the basement of a New York
City apartment building these are the
boilers these massive devices generate
heat and hot water for hundreds of
residents this runs on natural gas Ryan
asaro with carbon Quest says burning
that fuel creates carb carbon dioxide it
would normally go out the chimney but
here here’s the carbon capture room
their system captures CO2 before it’s
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Gall of liquefied carbon dioxide that’s
equivalent to about 3 tons of CO2 the
Maze of pipes and tanks fills a room but
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capture happens at large industrial
plants as Sparrow believes bringing the
technology down to this size is critical
to fighting climate change this takes up
about 800 ft in a 400,000 ft building
more cities like New York are ruling out
restrictions on building emissions but
changing an entire heating system to
Electric is difficult for buildings that
use natural gas boilers carbon capture
is a cost effective and um easy solution
to implement without a major disruption
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projects meet new green construction
requirements carbon captured in a full
cycle showing how one building’s waste
can help build a Greener
future and for more on this I’m joined
on set by our Bradley Blackburn uh
Bradley I guess do we call these
carbonated cinder blocks that sounds
like they sound like they might be made
by lroy but um how are carbonated cinder
blocks different than say traditional
ones well functionally John they’re
they’re exactly the same so in fact the
company says that if anything they’re a
little bit stronger than traditional
blocks but the point here is really
about the green potential that’s why
they’re doing it at Glennwood Mason out
there they’re no longer making
traditional blocks everything that comes
off that line that you saw has carbon
locked inside and what it offers to
Architects and Builders is that it helps
them achieve certain standards like to
get lead certification and so that’s why
this one uh builder of blocks is moving
in this direction and um so lead
certification is one prestigious thing
um how does it help financially I mean
who what’s the financial benefit for
those who might use it or or otherwise
yeah when you look at an individual
building whether they would choose to
install it down in the basement on their
own boiler uh really there there’s a
carrot here and there’s a stick so so
the carrot is that uh buildings that are
green are more appealing to tenants or
to uh or to owners in a lot of cases so
there’s a marketing aspect to this and
carbon Quest also says that their system
because buildings can share in the
profit from selling their carbon dioxide
over time it helps pay for itself now
the stick part is interesting and it’s
all about regulation so here in New York
City they’re introducing one of the
toughest laws in the country uh to
decarbonize buildings by 2030 it aims to
reduce emissions by 40% in residential
buildings and so what will happen is
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dioxide over that limit will be charged
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adds up quick you’re looking at tens of
thousands of dollars per year maybe more
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driving buildings to Electrify so
there’s a question of whether this kind
of carbon capture technology will help
meet those requirements there other are
there other customers for liquefied
carbon dioxide yeah that was my big
question in reporting this story because
this uh Glenwood Mason is using carbon
dioxide at about the same rate that this
one building is producing it so if you
scale this up you need a lot more
customers right and there are other uh
clients you know certainly other
concrete makers or or construction
projects you mentioned carbonated right
I mean this is carbonated water it’s the
same stuff that goes into soda that’s
another potential client uh there are
also industrial client in in hospital
settings that kind of thing but really
uh this company that’s marketing this
says it’s not just for residential
buildings it could be applied anywhere
there are big boiler systems so think
schools hospitals other institutions all
that might want to reduce their
footprint John very cool Bradley
Blackburn thank you so much thanks for
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John Dickerson here are some additions
to our top stories the Supreme Court
heard arguments Thursday in the case
revolving around whether former
president Trump is immune from
prosecution for actions taken while he
was in office decision on Trump’s
immunity claim could be critical in his
ongoing 2020 election interference case
in another one of Trump’s legal battles
a federal judge has denied his bid for a
new trial in the civil suit from writer
egene Carroll she was awarded more than
$83 million in in January after a jury
found Trump liable for defamation while
Trump called the damages out of
proportion the judge
disagreed a New York appeals court has
ordered a new trial for Harvey Weinstein
after overturning his 2020 rape
conviction the court found the judge who
presided over the case made an error
when allowing prosecutors to call
witnesses whose accusations were not a
part of the
charges the Pentagon says the
construction has started on a peer that
will deliver Aid to Gaza meanwhile
Israel is intensifying its strikes on
Rafa ahead of a possible ground
offensive Deborah po shows us the
destruction from the war in the
territory and tells the story of an aid
worker who’s risking risking it all to
help others and we want to warn you some
of the images are
disturbing for more than 200 days gaza’s
2.3 million Palestinians have endured
Relentless Israeli
bombardment more than 34,000 people have
been killed mostly women and children
infrastructure has been all but
destroyed and a crippling humanitarian
crisis grips the
territory images over the weekend of
tiny sabrin ALU born 10 weeks too early
fighting for her life after being saved
from her dying mother’s womb in Rua
prompted fresh Global outrage this is
beyond Warfare said the UN the UN
population funds Dominic Allen has just
returned from Gaza he visited alifa and
nassa hospital before the war the two
largest and most advanced hospitals in
Gaza all that’s left of them now the
remnants of a battlefield we saw
equipment uh ultrasounds and other types
of equipment which was going to help
save lives with purposeful destruction
screens that are smashed cables that
have been cut of particular concern of
pregnant women around 5,000 expected to
give birth in the coming month alone
there’s the fear we hear from pregnant
women who are scared for their own lives
and their babies lives where will they
be able to give birth safely amidst this
hellscape Aid workers are also racing to
Ward or famine stalking
Gaza trying to get food water and
medicine to those in dire need Gaza is
the most dangerous place in the world
for those providing humanitarian
Services nearly 250 Aid workers have
been killed in this war working in a
situation where there is no ceasefire
and there is a continuous pumping
continuous shelling uh over your heads
while you are working with those people
for sure it’s really difficult ma’am and
yet every day 29-year-old Oxfam worker
khud jaaa heads off to do this difficult
dangerous work because we believe that a
humanitarian workers it’s it’s one of
our responsibilities
together with organizations like the UN
Oxfam is helping distribute life-saving
food and water and hygiene kits for
women living in Dusty tent camps where
even the most basic sanitation is a long
forgotten luxury when work is done
jaafer never quite knows what she will
come home to her 2-year-old son Samir
and her husband Yousef constantly on her
mind when she’s in the field all the
time trying to call them trying to text
them uh to make sure that they are safe
it is not easy to leave work behind and
forget the stories of Devastation and
loss that she spends her day listening
to I’m I’m trying uh to calm myself
because I don’t want to go back to home
holding all these tragedies with me
because I want to go back to home trying
to care about my child an almost
impossible Balancing Act for this young
mother making her son feel secure in a
place she knows is anything but
safe and Deborah P joins me now from
East Jerusalem uh what a story uh
Deborah um with Gaza it seems like it it
just can’t get any worse and then it
just keeps getting worse um Israeli
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu seems
quite determined to press ahead with the
invasion of Rafa so what’s going to
happen when that happens
well you know John that is of course
what has many global leaders and Aid
organizations really worry the latest
being the G7 which said a rougher
Invasion would have catastrophic
consequences if it went ahead you know
it’s been said so often but I think it
Bears repeating over and over again that
more than half of gaza’s 2.3 million
Palestinians are Sheltering in Rua some
of them have fled multiple times in this
war and they pressed right up against
that border with Egypt you know this was
supposed to be their last stop and you
saw the levels of Destruction on our
report there there is nowhere to go and
there is nothing to go to parts of Gaza
are unrecognizable and into this mix is
the fact that the world food program
said this week that half of gaza’s
population is starving not on the brink
of starvation they are starving and even
with more Aid coming in It’s A Drop in
the Ocean now if that Invasion goes
ahead it is going to hamper Aid work
which is still problematic still being
held up still having difficulty reaching
the North and the areas where there is
the most dire need and yet Benjamin
Netanyahu has brushed off these global
concerns John and you know as always
he’s hellbent going it alone and seems
to be pressing ahead and giving
indications that that could happen
anytime soon so there’s real fear for
those people in ruer right now John
Hamas is still holding Israeli hostages
in Gaza somewhere um has there been any
progress or where do things stand uh
with respect to the negotiations for the
release of those hostages as it goes on
as it stands right
now well you know yesterday we saw a
Hamas propaganda video surface that
showed 23-year-old HS Goldberg Poland
speaking with an amputated arm that was
an injury he sustained during the
October 7th attack trying to protect
friends this really has given red hope
to um many of the families of the
hostages that there are more hostages
alive and remember you know we were
talking about the rougher Invasion there
are also over 100 hostages inside Gaza
families desperately hoping that they
come back so that video um really spared
some kind of hope it also spared Furious
protests outside prime minister Benjamin
netanyahu’s residents you know these
families um of those in captivity feel
that he’s failed them so much so that
the protest ended in pretty violent
clashes with police but again today we
heard that there are more discussions
around the deal I feel like I’ve said
that so often since this war started
that there are more discussions but I
spoke to the mother of H Goldberg pollen
and she said a very powerful thing John
that there are hundreds of thousands of
innocent people suffering in Gaza and
one of them she said I know very well
his name is hirsh and this is enough
it’s time for this end to end for
everyone Deborah p in East Jerusalem
thank you so much
Deborah the University of Southern
California is cancelling its mainstage
graduation ceremony amid a wave of
protests against the Israel Hamas War
students have been making their voices
heard from California to New Jersey
there you see video from UCLA Princeton
UT Austin and Temple University in
Philadelphia many are calling for their
colleges to devest funds from Israeli
military operations while some Jewish
students report they’re scared for their
safety on campus hundreds of protesters
throughout the country have been
arrested 10 years ago a water C Crisis
began when the city of Flint Michigan
switched to the Flint River for its
Municipal Water Supply the more
corrosive water was not treated properly
allowing lead from pipes to reach into
many homes Usher kesi went to Flint to
speak with residents about what the past
decade has been
like and American city sickened by its
own drinking water these are all your
medications yeah I was uh prior to 2015
January of 2015 I was on uh one
multivitamin every day how many pills do
you take a day I take 15 prescribed
pills every day Melissa Mays became one
of Flint’s loudest voices she’s among
tens of thousands still waiting to see
any payment from a $626 million class
action settlement for their exposure
we’re trying to be civil and and yet no
one’s in jail the pipes aren’t replaced
the yards aren’t fixed we don’t have
Healthcare basically what we were told
was that it’s okay to poison us we don’t
matter trouble began when the city in
economic freefall disconnected its water
supply from Detroit system and began
drawing from the Flint River instead it
was a bid to shave Millions off the
city’s budget the Centers for Disease
Control and prevention estimated 100,000
people were exposed when the corrosive
chemicals used to decontaminate Flint
River water allowed lead from the pipes
into faucets at least 12 people died
from Legionnaire disease brought on by
bacteria in that water results from
children’s blood tests were a red flag
for one pediatrician there is no safe
level of lead by summer 2015 Dr Mona
Hanna Atia discovered that the number of
children with dangerous levels of lead
in their blood doubled that is the
moment my life changed um as a
pediatrician um we know what lead does
it’s it’s damning it is a potent
irreversible neurotoxin there’s no safe
level it erodes cognition it twists
Behavior it can alter the life course of
a child um and and and worse it can
alter the life course of a population of
children Dr Hannah Atia is now the
associate Dean for public health at
Michigan State University’s College of
human medicine it’s pretty stunning that
to this day we continue to use the
bodies of our kids as Detectors of
environmental contamination she
estimated some 14,000 children in Flint
may have been exposed almost like it was
some sort of a pandemic that Flint had
been through James PR joined a class
action lawsuit after his 88-year-old
daughter was exposed she had a certain
amount of lad Nur system when you found
that out that she had lead in her blood
what did you think there’s learning
disabilities to go along with it so I
thought you know she’s going to be out
for a tough future I am sorry and I will
fix it then Governor Rick Snyder was
among nine current and former Michigan
officials charged criminally 7 years
after the Crisis began but the cases
collapsed after the state supreme court
said the charges were brought improperly
by a one judge grand jury there is lead
in the drinking water but it’s
considered below Federal safety limits
the population here has dropped by about
20,000 over the past decade but it’s
still fresh in the minds of people we
met has it faded at all from the
Forefront of the minds of people in this
community I would say no it’s not all
the way healed we can still see
construction going on with pipes and
things like that in 2015 at age 8 Mari
copany crowned Little Miss Flint became
an activist now 16 she’s frustrated by
inaction have things gotten better no
honestly we still don’t have clean water
isn’t that so crazy isn’t that so crazy
we haven’t had clean water in in is 2024
what would you like to see happen
getting clean water finally getting our
W you know getting our pipes fixed we
can’t recover until until the water
coming through our pipes stops hurting
us until it’s actually clean and safe
for everyone in Flint and that’s not
happening and Usher Ki joins me now
Usher uh what does the federal
government have to say about whether or
not the water is safe to
drink well we posed that very simple
question to the US EPA asking is the
water in Flint safe and a lot of
residents would hope that the answer
would be seemingly simple as well what
we got in response from the EPA was that
a lengthy response that talked about
testing retesting compliance and
investment in infrastructure but nowhere
in that lengthy response was the word
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Eastern when President Biden released
his administration’s National Security
strategy he declared that quote the
postc Cold War era is definitively over
and a competition is underway between
major Powers it’s that acknowledgement
that was in part behind the $95 billion
Aid Bill Biden signed Wednesday sending
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West David it’s good to be with you
before we get to the present I want to
talk about the past as you outlined so
well in your book you write about how
Western governments especially America
consistently underestimated or
misunderstood the intentions of of China
explain that a little bit was it lack of
information naive t or something else
you know it was a little bit of poor
intelligence but mostly I think John it
was wishful thinking you know after uh
the fall of the Berlin Wall we saw that
Russia was in a unsteady
democratization and that China was on
the rise and it was the determined
thinking of the Clinton Administration
the Bush Administration others you and I
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essentially decide that becoming part of
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than territory more important than
worrying about Taiwan really more
important about than repressing descent
at a time that we saw a pretty robust if
not fully Free Press but independent
press underway in China now let’s turn
to Russia um if you could pinpoint a
moment um when the miscalculation took
place with Putin where would you where
would you put your finger you know I
might put my fingers on of all strange
places on an evening uh in 2002 uh when
President Bush and Laura Bush and Putin
and his then wife were floating down the
Neva river outside of St Petersburg bush
had gone to get help in counterterrorism
this was shortly after
911 and the two were talking about
joining the European Union maybe one day
Russia joining NATO the the alliance
that had been set up to contain the old
Soviet Union and they were being served
dinner John by this sort of hulking guy
in the background and when I went back
and dug out the pictures sure enough it
was progan the man who later went on to
try to fix the 2016 election and start
the Vagner group to go help invade
Ukraine now well let’s move to the
present this Aid package that President
Biden just signed do you what do you
think is that a sign that there is now a
catch up in thinking from what you deta
at the beginning of your book in terms
of an understanding of what the nature
of the great power competition is I
think that catch up and thinking was
going on even in the Trum in the Trump
Administration not necessarily with
President Trump but some of his advisors
including one you just showed HR
McMaster who turned out a national
security strategy that tried to steer
the United States back toward great
power competition away from from an eras
of of
counterterrorism but in the Biden
Administration they really crashed into
it John and uh you know it’s Congress
and particularly this group within the
Republican party that wanted to pull
back that seemed to be stepping on on
the breaks a bit on that now they’ve
come through and that money will go not
only to Ukraine but to Taiwan I will go
not only to Taiwan but also to Israel
and to the Palestinians but I think the
process was so rough getting there that
there are many people wondering whether
or not that’s repeatable particularly if
a trump Administration comes in David
Sanger the author of The New York Times
bestseller new cold Wars thank you so
much David great to be with you John
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