Understanding this is how traders evolve despite how crazy it seems at first. I've seen huge movements with no huge news. I've seen small news make huge moves. Huge news make small moves.

    Market Makers, Big money, Hedge funds, etc. all have their lines based on thousands of different strategies. If it hits a line, something happens regardless if there is a news story to support it or not.

    The tail is wagging the dog.

    Do you all believe now? The market doesn't move on news. The market moves and the Media assigns it a reason (news) after.
    byu/DjBass88 instocks



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    20 Comments

    1. greenline-sam on

      Agreed.

      I like to say that every CNBC headline is just a report on the Dow / S&P being up/down today, “despite” or “because of” a specific news story.

      It’s always rationalized after the fact.

    2. Totallycomputername on

      I love reading posts where people talk about how the market will tank or boom because of this or that and end up completely wrong. The market is wild and if these people actually knew this stuff they would be rich and not posting their “expertise” on reddit. 

    3. It is why I follow TA over news. It isn’t foolproof, but makes me less of a fool lol.

    4. In the short term, yes. In the long term reality will always catch up, and there has never been a time in market history when oil spikes did not become a face slapping reality.

    5. The question is why you guys are bearish. Record profits, low unemployment, gold saturated, dollar losing value, new FED appointee who will decrease interest rates, etc.

      Cash has to go somewhere – where else is it going to go?

    6. analyst_number_three on

      Once I read the trading game, I never considered shorting the market….ever….again. Buy and hold has made me a fortune

    7. Agree 💯. This is called Narrative Fallacy. I don’t watch financial news anymore because of this.

    8. So when Trump posts stuff on social media over a ten day span about firing the Fed Chairman and the markets tank and millions of dollars of gains are wiped out that was just the market doing its normal thing and it had nothing to do with Trump’s posts on social media?

    9. So when Trump posts stuff on social media over a ten day span about firing the Fed Chairman and the markets tank and millions of dollars of gains are wiped out that was just the market doing its normal thing and it had nothing to do with Trump’s posts on social media?

    10. Iwubinvesting on

      Idk what you’ve wrote down, seems like a schizo ramble.
      But yes, if it’s in the news it’s in the price.

    11. DaySecure7642 on

      It has been like this for a few years, ever since the trade volumes of the institutions exceeded that of the retails.

    12. April 2025 was proof that the market could be manipulated by external agents. Today is proof again – the market is selling off on a day that a new macro worry for markets and commodities is introduced and that’s sheer coincidence? No. The market can be manipulated by macro events, directly related to those events, not due to investor psychology being shifted by said events. Oil is a perfect example of this. Today Trump announces a total blockade and oil shoots up.

    13. Various-Struggle-714 on

      When I said this a week or two ago, I got downvoted like I was talking nonsense. Market move on mainly investor sentiment, not so much news. Covid was the best example.

    14. **Stocks Go Only Up**

      Just buy and get rich fast.

      SP500 will never drop more than 5%, because it’s impossible.

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