Gather round children because do I have a story for you!
We are relocating 600 miles because I started a new job. Our financing is contingent on sale, so we priced our house to move (about $30k under comps). We had mild interest and finally had a buyer who really liked the house. His offer was $5k under the list price and he asked for $11k in seller concessions. In the interest of time, we agreed. We asked for a 5 day rent back period to allow time to get a moving truck and finalize everything, but he wouldn't agree. We made arrangements to load the moving truck, pre-sign our settlement documents, and then be out the day before closing so they could do a walkthrough, sign, and take possession.
A week before closing, he doesn't have his CTC. My agent was talking to his agent and lender to figure out a timeline, and the bank keeps saying "probably tomorrow, probably tomorrow." We push back our movers and sign an addendum to push back closing. Monday comes and the bank is still saying "maybe tomorrow." Tuesday comes and the bank says they have received all of the gift letters they were waiting on and can put it back through underwriting.
No one told us they were waiting for additional documents! That would have changed things.
Wednesday comes, and so does our moving truck. We also get a message that the seller had an "unexpected tax bill" and they asked that we pay an additional $2800 towards closing to hasten things along. We refuse because WTF? Still no CTC.
Thursday comes and the lender says things look good, they should be CTC tomorrow. We've heard this story before. But it's too late to schedule closing on our new house for Friday, so we have to start making alternate arrangements.
We plan to leave Saturday morning. We reserve an Airbnb in our new town. We have to make new arrangements with the moving company because they're not going to be able to deliver when we thought they would be. (That cost an extra $3500.)
About 11am on Friday (the closing date in the contract) he gets the CTC. We're excited to wrap this up. We schedule with the title company to sign at 3pm. We told our agent we'll be out first thing Saturday morning, so make sure the buyer knows we need to stay overnight. He refuses. He wants us to vacate by 3pm so he can do a final walkthrough and sign closing paperwork at 5pm. Our agent tries to explain to his agent that we have no where to go, we've been more than accommodating, and we're asking for less than 24 hours. Still won't budge. His agent reminds us that the contract has closing today, so if we don't close we'll be in breach of contract and the buyer will walk. The buyer threatened to force us out of "his" house. We have no options and no patience left, so we say fine, send the release documents.
Bro then shows up at our house. We have a locked gate and a fence, so we wasn't able to come to the door, and we immediately called the cops. Our agent shows up to try to talk to him. His adament he has rights because it's "almost" his house. The cops arrive and also explain to him that the contract hasn't been signed and he has no legal right to this property. He eventually leaves, but WTF?
Now we're completely on edge. We have our car packed and are leaving in the morning. At about 6pm our agent said his agent was going to submit an addendum to close on Monday. We don't even know if we want to sell to him anymore. This is a quiet, family-friendly neighborhood, and he's already causing drama and throwing a temper tantrum. We're not *that* desperate. I know the market sucks, but we can wait it out. I just can't believe he tried to kick us out of our own house. Yes I know the closing date in the contract said today, but 4 hours to vacate is an unreasonable expectation. We also signed an addendum to move closing without them disclosing that they were still waiting for documents and had a large tax bill to handle.
This was a new one for our agent. She's also in shock that they've been so unaccommodating, uncooperative, aggressive, and hostile. So now dude gets to learn that actions have consequences.
End rant.
TL;DR Buyer wanted us to vacate property and hand over possession with four hours notice. We had to call the cops after he showed up and threatened to force us out of "his" house. Now we're considering cancelling the deal.
Buyer decided to fuck around and find out
byu/bhudak inRealEstate
Posted by bhudak
6 Comments
Great story
Wouldn’t his parents and family be proud
You’d be silly to cancel the deal at this point in time and you know you’re not going to.
Calm down. This is business.
You’re not the only one who has had a stressful and delayed closing.
Whatever you do, leave a massive shit unflushed when you go.
Yeah that’s not normal at all.
Delays happen, but the combo of last-minute money asks, refusing a simple overnight, and then showing up acting like he owns the place is a huge red flag.
You’ve already bent over backwards. If you move forward, lock everything down in writing on your terms. Otherwise walking isn’t crazy here.
We had a tenant who said she wanted to buy our home. We verbally agreed on a price and then she came back two weeks later asking for another $100K off. After talking for five weeks and asking us to reduce her rent by half to compensate her for taking her down payment money out of the market during the 90-120 day close she was proposing (30-60 days is normal in our market), we gave up on her. We decided she couldn’t afford it and was just wasting our time.
We gave her notice so we could list for sale and she moved out. She still tried to negotiate after move out, but why would we bother to negotiate with someone who can’t afford the place?
We list the home. Property was on the market for two months, no offers. Then we get an offer all cash, 30 day close and accept. Once she sees it go contingent, she makes a full price offer, all cash. We saw the financial statements which accompanied the offer, turns out she could have afforded the place all along. She was a lying low-baller who wasted $40K of her money on rent and wasted months of our time.
We close on the first offer which was less money but zero hassle.
Money is fungible. I can get more of it or I can get less. I can get money from one person or another. But she wanted only one thing, our property. Her low-balling attempts backfired completely.