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In this video, I discuss the recently launched Ledger Recover service and what it implies about security problems with the Ledger hardware wallet.
I have always recommended against using Ledger hardware wallets, especially in a single sig setup. The fact that the firmware was and remains closed-source was always a deal-breaker for me. Ledger’s many customer data leaks also showed a remarkable disregard for user security and privacy.
Now we learn that the new firmware (which is still closed-source) will have the ability to export encrypted shards of the recovery seed. Here’s the big problem in my opinion: if the new Ledger firmware has the ability to split the recovery seed into 3 encrypted shards and send them out from the hardware wallet– this is not only a feature, but also a potential vulnerability that can be exploited by an attacker.
What happens when a government goes to these 3 custodians and forces them to reconstruct your private key from the 3 shards, after you have KYC’d yourself?
Stick to Bitcoin-only hardware wallets that have open source and viewable firmware, like the Blockstream Jade and ColdCard hardware wallets.
I’m not being paid or compensated in any way by any of these companies that I mention in this video.
Not investment advice! Consult a financial advisor.
Ledger data leaks:
https://cointelegraph.com/news/ledger-data-leak-a-simple-mistake-exposed-270k-crypto-wallet-buyers
https://thedefiant.io/ledger-suffers-another-data-leak
Don’t Use Trezor Coinjoin (Or Trezor):
Trezor’s Betrayal (Your Questions Answered):
Ledger Launches Distributed, KYC-Based, Cloud Seed Recovery Service Then Quickly Deletes It:
https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/ledger-to-launch-kyc-cloud-based-recovery-service/
Ledger Recover is “optional”:
Ledger Recover is an optional subscription for users who want a backup of their Secret Recovery Phrase. You don’t have to use it, and can continue managing your recovery phrase yourself if that’s why you bought a Ledger.
— Ledger (@Ledger) May 16, 2023
Shamir’s secret sharing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamir%27s_secret_sharing
My favorite 2 hardware wallets:
https://blockstream.com/jade/
https://coldcard.com/
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Damnit i have 7 of them…
misleading title.
You realy dont understand the Problem. Ledger FUD for nothing….
Jade supports tether shitcoin. Not a bitcoin only wallet.
don't listen to this dork, stop lying to people loser, you have no idea of what you are talking about
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You are correct, the 3 custodians of parts of someone's seed phrase is a terrible idea.
so would you say the trezor is more open source than coldcard?
Thanks for the video. We start to remember what centralised banking services do and provide to the community – safeguard and insure our wealth. If BTC and other block-chain technologies are to be adopted by the masses, issues like this have to be solved.
Thanks to the Bitcoin University community and Matthew's extrordinary diligence, i finally purchased Jades to replace my Ledgers.
I'm going to wipe both ledgers and practice multi-sig, which is the last bit of wisdom I've yet to adopt from Bitcoin University. Actually would that make me certified? I can just picture the associated BU Ordinals for graduates. 😅
So where do we store our Bitcoin
The biggest problem with this is they can extract your seed phrase from your Ledger device. This is the biggest reason why everybody is angry about this. The only way Ledger can come back from this is if they make their software open source! It's highly likely that they have already taken certain seed phrases from certain Ledger devices! It was so obvious from the start as to why their software isn't open source!
Haven't updated firmware on my tresor model T in over a year? Does that make it safer?
Am using ledger, what does even mean?
I have been using Ledger Hardware Wallets for years. Hmm.
This is unbelievable, it defeates the whole purpose of a hardware wallet! At first I thought this was a joke but apparently it's not! 🤮
Who’s more user friendly? Jade or CC
Well, etching that ledger seed phrase on steel wasmwastemof time and money. So mad at Ledger.
I would love to switch to CC or BSJ but I've seen other viewers on your channel mention many issues they face with those wallets. For this reason it's put me off
Can’t use ledgers, can’t use Trezor, can’t use online wallets, can’t trust exchanges, have to research even deeper to keep your crypto safe. Have to worry about gov regulations and constantly watching you….I’ve been a supporter of Bitcoin for a very long time. And for the first time ever…I’m really frustrated with it all. It is so non user friendly…the jump to learn/protect yourself is far to big…and far too complex to really get retail to buy into the idea. I get it we’re early…but…at what cost? 99% of this shit is sooo over complicated :/
You know it's serious when Matt does a second video on a day
Two vids in one day!! What did I do to deserve this treat 😊
I have a ledger but all I have is 120 bucks of bitcoin and xrp. I set it up but have yet to rake coin off exchange. Should I get rid of it?
Thanks Matt! Do you have any experience with Samourai wallet? It is open source and privacy focused. Seems promising
its hard now. for u its easy to say. but many who already have bitcoin in Ledger its a lot of work and stress moving to another wallet
Thanks, Matt. I've been using ledger for about 4 years since I started buying BTC. In hindsight I would probably do things differently, but they were the most recommended option at the time. Do you think it's necessary to move funds to a separate address/seed or would you just recover your wallet onto a Blockstream Jade (if you had a Ledger)? What would be the benefit here for someone who only deposits bitcoin into their cold storage address and doesn't use other services by Ledger?
Thanks, Matt. I know how to transfer bitcoin between my Ledger and an exchange, but clueless about how we would transfer our Bitcoin from the Ledger NanoS to one of the cold storage wallets you recommend. Can you make a video showing up how that's done?
Should I move my funds off my ledger into trust wallet?
Wasn't the Ledger company bought out by FTX a while back?
If the hardware wallet can spill the beans (as a backup in this case), HOW DO WE KNOW THEY (LEDGER) DON'T HAVE OUR KEYS ALREADY?
so it was all bullsh!t. That's just great. Everything digital will eventually go to its intrinsic value ie. elecrons and they're EVERYWHERE. Looks like it is back to gold. The only thing the government can do is pry it out of my cold dead hands.
Would you be morally opposed to using an open-source hardware wallet that only supports BTC and XMR?
Much thanks for the heads up here. Does anyone know anything about, or is using the Arculus wallet?
Yeah, sad to say, but anything Satoshi Nakamoto tries to use even once is gonna owned, hacked and corrupted.
Unbelievable Ledger are a bunch of 🤡
I bought one 2 months ago cause I’m about to start DCAing again and like… I don’t want to anymore. What do we use then?
Ledger capitulates!!!😂😂RIP Ledger.amen
I use trezor hardware wallet model one. No coinjoin. Only use to store btc, digibyte. Very safe. Very good. BITCOIN as digital gold, Digibyte as currency. Both pass the Howey test and are NOT securities but property assets and backed and secured by proof of work.
what do i do what do i do
Wish I could get my money back 🙁
coldcards dont make sense, it's not an easy wallet. i have one and tried to set it up and have no clue how to make an address or anything
“Hey, I have a closed source software cold wallet business, how do I kill it?” – Ledger CEO
🧡
Coldcard moving away from GPL was the jerky move in my opinion. Specially because they also copied code from Trezor.