Best Bitcoin Trading Rules and Crypto Currency Strategies: Should You Buy Bitcoin Now?

Bitcoin has risen by around 200% this year, so should you buy now, and what are the best Bitcoin trading rules and cryptocurrency strategies to use today to profit as Bitcoin rises? In tonight’s Australian Stock Market Show, we answer these questions, give you our forecast on how high Bitcoin will rise this year and reveal when is the best time to invest to maximise your returns.

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0:00 Intro
1:54 Hot Stock Tip: WDS
6:29 Analysing World Markets
10:42 Answering Your Questions!
22:44 Best Bitcoin Trading Rules and Crypto Currency Strategies: Should You Buy Bitcoin Now? (Topic)
47:51 Answering Your Questions!
1:00:44 Next Week on The Australian Stock Market Show

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Good evening and welcome to the Australian stock market show your La index turned to rise last week so can we expect the Australian stock market to return to being bullish stay tuned as we’ll talk about that shortly for our main topic in tonight’s show we give you

Our views on the best Bitcoin trading rules and crypto currency strategies first up we’ll share our hot stock tip for the week so sit back and Rel that tonight’s jam-packed as we have lots of emails to answer we’ll also take your phone calls and give you the answers to

Some of the important questions around the Market tonight we have plenty of great stocks to look at in including zero wle cgf ARB and more so sit tight as we’ll get into those quite soon I’m Dale Gillum and I’m your host for tonight and joining me is our fantastic team of Highly experienced analyst and professional Traders Janine Cox and

Philip torki and together we’re Australia’s most trusted stock market Educators hey Janine Phil how you doing hello good thanks yeah great after a nice long weekend which you didn’t get yeah I had to work look after where you had holiday yep thank you for that yeah

And Phil’s got a suntown yeah I didn’t go to the beach but um it’s holding up well oh we had a fantastic show tonight I I’m excited about it all about Bitcoin and everything else the Hot Topic of the world over the last couple years it is

Well anyway tonight as I mentioned we are going to tackle Bitcoin and trading rules and cryptocurrency strategies so stay tuned as we’ll get into that and more very soon but first we need to get into this week’s hot stock tip so Phil what have you got for us tonight sure

The hot stock tip for tonight is Woodside energy now if we go to the market index Woodside Energy Group which is formerly known as Woodside petroleum this is one of the top stocks on our um on the ASX it’s an oil and gas company involved in Hydro carbon exploration evaluation development production and

Marketing now some key metrics on this one in particular we’ve got the 2024 year to date return 2.61 onee return minus 12.2 which is about in line with the ASX 200 which is a 133% oneyear return it’s got a market cap of 60 billion and it is

Ranked in the top 10 so this is very different to what I’ve been doing over the last couple of weeks it is one of the bigger players on our Market if not one of the biggest so if we bring it to the Chart we can have a much closer look

And see what we’ve got going on here now instantly I’ve got a few markings and I’ve said that right this week on the chart um what you’ll see I’ve got in green a horizontal line at $30 now I’ve marked this level because if you note that since 2005 $30 has been such an

Important level for this stock every time it’s decided to go and have a run it started it’s run from around $30 so it’s been a very good base for this stock you know it’s been around seven or eight occasions in the past as I moved my mouse cursor over each time it’s hit

That level it’s it’s had a nice on move up and what do you know we’ve touched that level again in the last month we’ve had December which if we zoom in a little closer has come in and touched that $30 quite nicely and you know technically it’s created a bit of a a

Bar which um you know can be deemed a reversal bar for those out there that know what I’m talking about you’re probably smiling but um and and look following that we’ve had the month of January which has closed above December’s high and and look that’s snapped a a 4mon streak where price had

Been you know falling pretty sharp so on top of that what what it’s also done is it’s come back and tested this trend line so it’s come back to a level where we would expect price to come back to from a technical point of view and I’ve

Also marked a 21.7 6% you’ll see there as a price uh projection and um you know the reason I really like this stock is because it’s it’s got opportunity not only for the long-term Trader but also for the short-term Trader so um I don’t know if you got any thought I’m loving

What you said I’m you stock choice is great fantastic I totally agree with you um look just looking at the chart the thing that I like about Woodside is the just this repetition of these ranges that we saw so out of the um GFC l a

Nice one there and we saw one into this rise in 2014 a third one into the high here and then of course the co low but again a nice long run so you know I guess you’re expecting like me to see another nice run similar sort of range

If we look at the the rises in terms of that range the one out of the co low was up around 165% so maybe more than 100% increase on that level you currently you’ve got 21 do you think you’re being a little bit conservative there in your target uh I’m thinking shortterm a

Little bit you know so um just getting to the first Port of Call which would be that $40 Mark but um look it’s uh yeah it’s interesting because normally we do stocks that you know start to curl up and and give us a bit more momentum but this one’s really interesting of where

It stopped falling is that because this is one of the biggest stocks is that you’re comparing it normally we come up with some of the smaller stocks on the market where a nice big one it is it is and it’s different for me I’m and it’s

Got um the volatility of a smaller stock doesn’t it which makes it really good for any Trader absolutely yeah y okay fantastic well thanks Phil for that I think it’s a great stock tip from for for this week actually I’m looking forward to what you bring us up for next

Week but that is it for our weekly hot stock tip now shortly we’ll get into our topic for the night but before we do right now is your opportunity to get involved in the the show and have your questions answered remember we do prioritize phone callers so pick up your

Phone now and call 03 9290 N8 that’s 03 from Melbourne 9290 98 or you can just text your question to the number on your screen now the first caller into tonight’s show now gets a free copy of my book accelerate your wealth so pick up your phone and dial 0392

N98 now while you do that well tonight is uh we’re going to take a look at World Market so let’s get into those all right on your screen right now we’ve got the list of World Markets now at the top there you can see one of my

Um favorite ones to look at at the moment is the Nicki stock average it’s actually up 7.66 per. but what do you make of this one Argentina at the top there dale have you seen that one it’s up from about 35% there well you know they get pretty passionate they love to

Be kicking goals in soccer and all those things so why not let them up the top okay um and then we’ve got obviously the US market up high as well um but still when you look at the returns we we’re talking pretty flat returns aren’t we it’s

3.3% for the um S&P 500 and the Dow Jones is only up 1.7% um our Market unfortunately down below the midpoint here we’re still in the red slightly but I think that you know we’ll break this we’ll break out of that this this year I’m expecting uh possibly double digit returns in the

Next financial year in on our Market get Phil on the show and expands our watch list like there’s a lot more countries Janine and I ever had he’s got he’s got excited hasn’t he is there anything on there that you’re interested in I had to

Delete a few so there were more so we going to look at any one of those yeah we are we are and um I know Janine’s got one that she really likes she mentioned the Japanese market and I’ve got one coming so so let’s have a look at the

Japan Japanese uh Japanese Market it just looks so bullish to have a look at that you can see it’s in this really long Trend now challenging that high but you know if you weren’t trading this at this point you wouldn’t be probably looking to do so now I think you might

Have missed the boat on this one but I think what it does is it gives you a really good example of how it can um provide some really good returns if people are trying to trade markets then um this might be a good one to keep on your list because we’re talking about

Returns in in these runs over 50% which is nice because that you know with a little bit of in room for your entry and your exit that would give a nice return 87% there and the more recent one we’ve got off this low um is about 50% as well

So far and not quite through that high yet but I’d expect given where it’s come it will eventually take out that high so great the Japanese Nick ey the Japanese CU I know part of the reason why we look at World Markets because it gives us an

Indication of what our Market might do if the sentiment around the world is good well not every Market but you’re right in saying of course I’m not going to question you all the all the markets when they’re moving together um they rise with the tide that’s what I was meaning now you’ve got

Another one you want to look at I do now given you know we’re on the controversial topics tonight I’m going to go Ultra contrarian and I’m going to pick the worst performer okay and see what’s happened it’s the Hang sang index yes and if we out of Hong Kong y Hong

Kong and we’ll keep it to the monthly chart because this looks like I know your favorite saying dog but um yeah look this Market’s been falling um you know since January 2018 and it’s been falling what with what you would expect to see in in a trend so what I do find interesting

Actually with the hangang index is that it’s come back to touch I’ve got my mouse cursor over here the February sorry now it’s February January 2024 uh this month the low has come back to touch the October 2022 low which was a significant low because we had a

Really strong push out there for three or 4 months so now that we’ve come to this significant point in the market I’m wondering whether we are perhaps going to see a move up with the Hing because this one is definitely lagging the whole world and it’s you know um it it it

Raises the question why for starters well you think this one is the the biggest opportunity is that what you’re saying given it’s been from contr yeah look and generally from a contrarian point of view that’s the case you know anytime you see the worst performer they

Can easily turn out to become the best perform true you know Market going down or stock going down 5 years is a definite signal to have a look at it especially if it’s a good Market or good stock like the Hing so could be all

Upside for the h sing anyway but that is our thoughts on the major world stock markets now before we get into the first email remember to get your questions answered live on air you will need to text or call into the show you can also send your questions to info at wealth

Within.com and we’ll answer them in next week’s show now let’s get into our first first question all right our first email is from Gerard who says hi Janine Philip and Dale thank you for your Tuesday night shows and your great analysis and advice I’d like to have your thoughts

And Analysis on that stock please this is Electro optic systems um is it the right time to buy some units of that stock kind regards Gerard I see I’ve been relegated to third now used to be D and Janine now it’s Janine you can still

Have a say I know I’ll share the mouse with you I’m just having a go so what are we talking about this stock so have a look at it well look I mean it’s a spy um if you ask me because of the volatility and the liquidity of it so

I’m just going to grab the cross here bring it across there you can see that there’s about what is it about a million and a half units traded but we’re talking about $1 um stock but in saying that you may um have actually paid attention to what we said on previous

Shows which once the stock gets above that dollar Mark which it clearly is now then there is more s a significant um probability that it will increase and go on from there which it looks really strong to me in the short term and looks like it’s got the potential to head

Towards $182 what do you think I totally agree I really love it when these stocks when they consolidate here and you know start congesting um and like you said it’s it’s that stock that has been the theme of the last couple weeks you know that those penny stocks multibag is uh

For sure and look what you’re going to get particularly with the stock congesting here it’s either going to pop up or it’s going to pop down and you know given it is in that space that is a little bit more specul speculative um I

I I love it I love it for one um all I would say is if you’re going to follow this one um perhaps what you normally would do in terms of risk and protection maybe you could as an idea probably keep it a little tighter and and follow that

Stock up as it moves on because you know at this level they can go up really really fast but they can fall down really really fast also now his question was is it time to get into this stock now now both of you are bullish on the

Stock neither you said is it time now well I’m going to say yes I’m going to say yes look it it it’s broken out of that sideways congestion which which we’ve got I’m hovering my mouse over here but if I was trading this stock

Like I said I would I would be very I would be much tighter with my stop okay so I would want to get in and I wouldn’t want to give this stock too much room to move because it is you know quite a uh small player so you’re thinking a

Shortterm move cuz we he doesn’t tell us whether it’s short medium or longterm what he’s thinking is just says is it time to buy now so you’re thinking shortterm I’m thinking tra trail trail this stock tra stop up underneath it tra Trail this stock because it is it is you

Know a dollar and and um it is at a level where it can be quite volatile so yeah any arguments for you yes I thought there would be okay I’m thinking I like what you said I’m thinking that if this stock actually closes up strongly at the top of the bar

By the end of the week yep then I would agree with Phil however I’d really like to see it go through let’s just have a bit of a look and like spand that up so you don’t have to get your magnifying glass out there um so if it goes through

This High here and it actually closes above the end of the week then I would and like Phil I’d be really wanting to look carefully and we’re going to talk about stop losses tonight but really carefully at where to set that stop loss and this is actually a really nice

Little Point underneath that outside bar but of course when people are trading this you’ve got to come up with your own rules so you know I mean I’m hoping that you’ve got your own rules sorted Sage advice from the conservative one there Mr Ry okay well now we have an email from

Tom who says hi all hoping you can discuss Challenger and if interest rates are positively affecting this company would be great if you can also provide some feedback on technical analysis regarding chart and likely Trend thinking of buying and holding for five or more years I’m 46 and looking to

Build a portfolio with high dividend returns for future income in my 50s thanks Tom should we tell him the good news or the bad news tell him the bad news first and then finish him off with a big bang Tom the bad news is that the

Market might Peak out in a few years so be careful of that and we’ll be telling you all the way through so in terms of longterm I’d say longterm to us obviously is 18 months plus so I’d say that yeah over that period there is a possibility that this could be a good

One for that well he’s talk 5 years 5 years I’d say no okay so what are you seeing on the chart for me what I’m seeing on the chart and look this stock has been since March 2021 this Stock’s been range bound between $750 and $530

So it’s stuck in a sideways pattern and it hasn’t shown me any signs yet that it wants to go up so the risk for him here is that it just continues to go sideways and he’s stuck in a trade doing nothing so I would wait definitely want to see a

Break above that 740 750 Mark before I got excited about buying this stock I want to get into a couple of things here with this because obviously neither of you excited about the stock right now because that’s what I’m getting from you but he’s saying he wants it to build his

Portfolio so he can get income on retirement so he’s trying to build an income portfolio now one should should he be doing that now or worrying about income now or worry about when he retires I’m assuming and what kind of stock should he be looking add in his

Portfolio top 20 top 20 easily top 20 and should he be worrying about income I guess that’s personal preference but it depends on whether you’re thinking about what the Cycle’s doing so you know when you’re talking about the market is coming to a peak yes you still want to

Try to eek out as much income as you can get from that and sit on big stocks but you’ve also got to be have some of those growth stocks in there as well like this but it’s just that the timing for this one’s not there yet yeah cuz we and this

Is an important point cuz he’s talking about 5 years because obviously that’s when wants to get income from omash shiming from retirement and we know with pretty high degree of certainty between maybe 2025 and 2030 our Market will crash again so if you’re looking at retiring in this next 5 years that has

To be high on your radar to go oh how hard do I push it now and then when do I start pulling back because often we see people push hard towards the end and then the ultimate dip over and we saw that in the GFC and we’ve seen that a

Few times with retirees well you said it perfect and I remember in 2007 when that you know people that it took 10 years for the market to get back to where it was you know near 2007 so that’s a long time to wait especially out of work so

Just sit back a little bit I think we can pick a better stock or you can pick a better stock and watching the show each and every week you’ll be able to have those but sorry the guys didn’t have any great news anyway let’s get on

To our next question this one is from Ben who says hey team been loving the podcast recently especially the ones that Janine has done on the Grain and cattle commodities as a farmer it’s exciting to see how much benefit I’m getting from doing the course and reading these Commodities to make an

Educated decision when to sell our product thank you Janine and my question tonight is on Wally um I brought back on the 24th of May 20122 for $14.91 I got a trailing stop- loss on the stock which triggered a sell last week sold on Monday the following week

Uh which protected my capital and made a small profit where you think Wally is likely to head in the near future I know when mining booms Wally is likely to follow which makes me bullish on Wally but it’s currently showing weakness what’s your thoughts thank you Ben so

What should Ben do Janine right he loves you obviously it’s a tough situation isn’t it and thank you so much ben I’m I’ve got more on the commodity space coming up soon so if you’ve got any requests please send them through um look just looking at the chart it is

Tough here um when you’ve watched the stock rise so nicely and it has so I think um if you just I’ve been having a bit of fun with this Arrow here but if you see um with the arrows pointing he’s bought somewhere down here in 2022 this

And this is a volatile stock at times it is but it’s deceiving so if first of all Ben if you just look at what it’s done on the monthly chart and this is one of the reasons why I absolutely you know really like this stock to us from a

Long-term patent point of view this appears to be on a long-term movement which has the potential to either get to $30 or Way Beyond that so so longterm up long term we’re saying this is bullish and it’s a good stock choice but right now it’s actually just had a reversal so

We’re not look we were looking at this one but we’re not in it at the moment and we you know we we’ picked particular times to be in this type of share because of the volatility and it’s so cyclical we can see that you’re saying he’s made the right decision to take a

Small profit and get out I’d say absolutely and I’d just say look don’t walk away from the stock yep um once you’ve traded it once though sometimes if people have made you know they’ve walked away and they’ve made something on it they you know think that they’re

Going toeat it they get attached to it that emotional connection so just make sure that you look at it and just think right this is actually it’s like your worker the stock is a working for you to make you some money so where can I next

Get the best opportune entry to do that safely so we’re just waiting for that setup now we’re waiting we’re waiting as well um but it’s not yet it might find support somewhere between $4 and $15 okay wait well that was really good advice for Ben um so thanks Ben for

Sending it in and good luck but take Janine’s advice and keep watching W now we got to have a text or we do have a text for tonight this one is from Kirsten who’s asking about uh look at it’s CHC she’s saying is it a buy cleared um 15h December high off okay

The 15th of December high it’s cleared um asking us for our thoughts so what do you think Phil um look if we go to the Chart it’s um It looks interesting it looks okay you know it’s come out of that low from October you know 27th of October It

Looks interesting it looks okay which one looks okay it can be both no I look I I’ll I’ll give a bit more I’ll draw a horizontal line here cuz there’s something I can see and if I draw a horizontal line what I find quite interesting here is that it’s come to

That $130 $140 level which has been a previous period of where the stock you know know accumulated a little it’s popped its head over to the other side and found a bit of support and now it’s heading on up again albeit we are on the weekly chart here so I’m not too sure

Whether she’s got a short-term or long-term mindset in this stock it look it’s been falling for quite a while but that being said you know it’s making higher highs and higher low so for me it’s in a short-term uptrend and look it’s got a bit of volume you know coming

With it so yeah I mean depending on her her her Outlook it’s um it’s definitely I I would anticipate further Rises it especially in the short term Fantastic look I’m just looking at this here and I’m seeing sort of a lot of boxes ticked cuz we we’re talking about the trend

Lines’s been broken that level that you were talking about been broken it’s found support what’s Curious to me though is how it got sold down into this low and it Clos low on the bar like who’s playing with this you know I mean so you got to be mindful of the Beast

Don’t you that’s there behind the scenes always you know just hang in there but it’s closed high so far we want to see it close high for the end of the week look it could be that just Friday was the last day of selling the last the last buyer finish the last seller

Finished on Friday and and the price ended up looking that way so love I love watching YouTube chat I don’t have to battle with her all the time so I love it so that’s great well that’s all we have on CHC but now for our topic tonight which as we’ve already

Mentioned is on the best Bitcoin trading rules and cryptocurrency strategies we’ll also answer as to whether you should buy Bitcoin now in the stock market Investments can change from cold to hot and back to cold very quickly and so it is with Bitcoin now I also want to

Know want you to know that what we will reveal tonight applies to any stock commodity or currency anywhere in the world now what I mean is that if you know how to trade you can trade any Market on any time frame including Bitcoin if you want to know what to look

For then stay tuned as we’ll get into that shortly now as a little history goes a long way Bitcoin Bitcoin US dollar Rose by more than 1, 1600% but in just as dramatic fashion it crashed by 77% from its high Bitcoin changed from hot to cold but recently Rose by around

200% now to help you profit we’re going to share whether Bitcoin could repeat what it’s done in the past and if now is the right time to buy it we’ll also discuss some trading strategies to help you profit this year now there’ have been a few interesting developments

You need to be aware of now Janine I’m sure you can set shed some light on these now you know how I feel about when big fund managers make announcements and they’re cheering and celebrating what do you yeah I get out of your road um simply because if we’re talking

About Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies and ETFs I’m always suspicious you and I have been thinking what what are the risks in the market going forward but now that there’s this huge push towards creating these funds for retail investors and becoming more in the media you you know what’s going to cause the

The next big correction well you know be worried about ETFs worried about cryptocurrencies involved in that as well oh yeah absolutely they will they’ll cause the next big crash so look Bitcoin BTC has suddenly rebounded from a crash under $40,000 per Bitcoin climbing back from what some thought was

A critical price level the Bitcoin price has swung wildly following the debut of a fleet of spot Bitcoin exchange traded funds or ETFs this month described as just the beginning by one legendary Wall Street chief executive now analysts at Wall Street giant Morgan JP Morgan have predicted the outflows from grayscales

Converted spot Bitcoin ETF gbtc are largely behind us signaling an end to the downward pressure on the Bitcoin price I get excited when I see how changes impact price but investors who bought Bitcoin near the peak will be feeling the opposite now my question to you both what do you think about the

Competition um and the news that spot Bitcoin ETF will create you know look I’m not look that was the whole point they were talking about whether Bitcoin could fall away and it was falling for a while there they were suggesting it was going to fall below 40,000 us I just

Looked at that and thought it’s just coming back into a shortterm correction before it then makes the next move up but in terms of that competition there’s only so much money that can go into different areas of the market so there is but to me is is an ETF people buy

Index ETFs to get exposure to a whole index but to buy one ETF to buy a Bitcoin one instrument that just sounds stupid to me yep because you just buy Bitcoin yourself so the only benefit of that is that you’re using a stock exchange to buy the ETF rather than

Having a wallet and all that but ETFs have to make money for the ETF provid so it’s going to cost less um for the fees are low apparently on these I can buy any I can buy a Bitcoin and had probably low fees to straight off a Bitcoin

Exchange can’t I yeah it was Larry thinkink he he came out from Black Rock and said that you know the reason they’re doing this they think they can compete particularly on the retail end for people buying Bitcoin rather than going direct buying it from black rocket

It’s going to be much cheaper so I just think they giving it the perception it’s much safer well for sure cuz they’re attached to it and and look we all know at the end of the day a an ETF is a derivative correct it’s supposed to be tracking an underlying instrument which

Is the real instrument not the ETF so and they’re not actually buying the Bitcoins anyway they’d be they’d be hedging using all sorts of complex strategies that they have well that was one of my concerns because you and I saw before the GFC hit how people were going

In droves to go into cfds thinking that that was the thing that they had to trade and I’m I’m seeing this same sort of thing mounting that this is where we’re heading with these sort of products that could be part of that pushup in the market in Market just

Because they can create a product doesn’t mean you should have it that’s exactly right to me you to me there’s always there’s always why are they creating the ETF for them to make money not the the investor to make money yeah well institutions will be able to

Actually cash out of them so that was an interesting development for people to look into good discussion I can be there for an hour but anyway do you know how much money Janine has gone into the new Bitcoin ET F and what do you think the

Impact will be on a Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency so I’ll ask you Phil yeah look us Bitcoin atfc 4.6 billion in volume in the first day of trading now wow look in comparison the SLE Q which is the most popular ETF does about $ 1220 odd million dollars a day in

Trading now I know a million or billion million million so 4.6 billion is well well over um that being said it’s the first day every body is excited on day one I’d like to see how that goes as the weeks go on but look they’ve overshot normal trading volumes by billions

Actually that’s an interesting point isn’t it because we say that when something Launches on the market and it’s newly listed give it you know 12 months and we’ll see it trading below what you know what it’s listed at it’ll be falling so it’ll be interesting to

See what happens funny you bring that up because I remember when when Bitcoin as a trading instrument came on the retail end particularly with my broker M it was at the time it was near its alltime high and that’s when it fell so it was almost like when shorting was

Allowed the the coin fell out of bed so dropped the pen the penny that’s a good one the penny dropped Penny dropped but um I wonder whether now these big announcements now going to open that up for probably even on on a higher higher scale especially at the institutional

End yeah I think because you know with Bitcoin just summarize what you’re talking about or what I’m hearing is that they’ve created this ETF to stuck in the people that normally wouldn’t go into Bitcoin I think and that’s really what it is cuz people that want to do

Bitcoin they’ll be in the Bitcoin on their own yeah because what’s happened is since the GFC okay before the GFC ETFs were not prominent in investors list they were investing in stocks so now they are used to ETFs correct they’re sort of like the frog in the pond adjusting to the temperature rising

And now they’re going to be um going into these Bitcoin ETFs it’s a bit of a concern well that is interesting now as I always say the best way to understand is to see it for yourself so let’s get to the charts and see if the RIS and

Fall and we also answer that big question will Bitcoin fall further so let’s bring up the charts Janine all right on the screen there we’ve got Bitcoin um Us doll you can see what we were talking about before Phil was talking about them being having been shorted from that high so there’s the

High back there that was in November 2021 but there was this high as well where in April 2021 where there was that first significant fall but it’s off you know off the back of 1,663 per rise out of this low for the ones who were the early movers getting

Into the the race really early but now as Dale said before we’ve seen a 200% rise in the the Bitcoin um price and the the whole uh I guess hooa was about whether the Bitcoin was going to actually trade below 40,000 which it did dip below but didn’t stay there for very

Long and has now come back up to a resistance level which is somewhere around 445,000 so we could see it trade up a little bit more I think um The Fan Fair might sort of run out temporarily before we see a bit of a pullback that’s

What you’d like to see whether it’s a stock or Market before we can determine whether it’s going to continue the rise but you know it looks bullish but we’ve seen Rises on this um on the crypto um previously maybe four five months up and then it falls away yeah yeah I look I

Agree 100% I mean look it’s had a good what Ser from December December 2023 it’s had a whole year to re to really push and it hasn’t been able to push through the all-time high it’s only really pushed up half of what it’s Fallen you know it’s taken almost from

November 21 so it’s taken almost a year from 21 to 22 to fall and in that same time span it’s only gone up about half so whilst it is um running up particularly in the last four or five months for me I mean it’s still got to

Do a lot more for me to go super bullish and and go with these predictions that some people making like you know 100,000 200,000 yeah so look I mean I think it’s got the potential to go through the alltime high in the in the big picture

Sense however in the short term we we just need to see whether it does have this correction back after The Fan Fair like you were saying we just need to let it sit have a breather can I give you my thoughts go for it I think one or two

Things are going to happen in the next three months one is it is going to rise up and if it does do that by the end of April it’s going to tank M and we’re talking about a 50% fall that’s what it’ll do if it’s falling away and not

Going up or generally going sideways and down into the next 3 months then the opposite will happen it’ll just go off like a rocket yeah that’s what I’m thinking so to me that’s my prediction so look look out for the end of April I’m saying so which one were you picking

Look I’m not going to tell you yeah know you just I was going to keep that all to myself and what just giving everybody options I’m giving everybody well it’s up to people to make their own decisions and looking at I’m just saying if it’s

Going to do this if it rises up into the end of April it’s going to tank I know that but if it does the opposite it’ll flip and it’ll have a very very strong rise so that’s what’s going to happen so watch the charts over the next three

Months but it is well it is interesting anyway about what we’re doing but what about some other cryptos Janine is this a phenomenon where can expect across the board now will they fall or is there a buying opportunity now I know when you’re looking at Bitcoin a lot of the

Other cryptos will follow Bitcoin so what’s happening guys it’s interesting that you ask those questions because I’ve just got up on the screen here um it’s salana um which you can see there we’ve had a similar sort of sideways consolidation I’ll just expand that chart again um I know that you don’t

Have bionic site there and you can see this sideways move and a rise of 3 months and a bit of a consolidation still so it’s the same sort of pattern that we’ve seen um across the board happening but looking let’s look short term to see whether the recent reaction

Had that effect and you can see there was a bit of a selloff there into the low even though we’re talking about something completely different to bitcoin um it’s it’s like that when you know when one’s Rising a lot of them are rising at the same time not all of them

Depending on what they’re in but this one to me looks really nice yeah look and and like they like you said um you know uh a lot of these cryptos they a lot of their charts are mimic one another and I would employ people to go

Out there and have a look and see the different cryptos out there and um compare the charts because you’ll often find that a lot of them look pretty much the same but this one in particular if we go back to the Chart salana does look a little

Bit different like you said Janine and look I I agree with you I I like on this particular run it’s expanding into the end of the run you see the bars are getting larger than smaller which tells me that you know there’s more push uh to

The upside it’s had a bit of a pullback and now it’s popping back up so um from a purely technical point of view this looks okay the only look no look no no I’m not going to go that far and say that but the the only thing I will say

Say is that again from the alltime high in November 2021 that whole year it took to fall it’s had a whole year to try and recover that and it’s only gone up half a good point so I I’m it’s probably coming through but I’m not crazy on in this

Space especially here it’s got a lot more to do so you’re saying you don’t like cryptos look well can I can I add my two there’s going to be people watching this that are absolutely crypto mad mad and they’re going to go you guys don’t know what talking about blah blah blah but

The thing is we’ve been watching crypto for a decade now and I know we’ve made predictions like in 2017 I put out in the newspapers the crypto was going to crash nobody believed me even though the garden of the poor man nobody every said it was going to go through the RO it

Crashed and then we’re seeing I had I like 12 months or 8 months ago I did a recording on bat Bitcoin and I said it’s going to go under 20,000 and I had people saying to me no it’s going to 60,000 and blah blah blah but you’re

Wrong and you’re an idiot it went to 20,000 so it’s not that we don’t know what it’s doing but I’m just saying as people get stuck in their head they fall in love with crypto Bitcoin or whatever it is and they won’t see the wood for

The trees so that’s what we’re trying to be real here with them aren’t exactly just understand what you’re doing not necessarily don’t trade it but understand what you’re doing yeah yeah you’re 100% right well we’ve got no problem with people trading it it’s just are they aware of what they’re actually

Stepping into yeah because you’ve seen the percentage Rises I mean you can make a lot of money out of these if you know when to get into them can’t you the only the only issue there is you’re trading a lot of the time in unless you’re trading

Now on regulated um Brokers like now it’s it’s offered but I know a lot of people are trading off these secondhand Brokers um that you know crypto Brokers and and we’ve seen two exchanges go broke like FTX and so I’m just thinking imagine that happened on the ASX because

The exchange is supposed to be the referee the one that accepts all the transactions make sure everything’s transparent now if you’ve got a dirty referee all these things somehow get swept under under the radar with crypto and the crypto Bulls is full steam ahead

Um I just think have a look at the whole picture and see what you’re doing if you’re happy trading in you know unregulated markets and and taking that risk on all all power to you but don’t forget there’s over 2,000 stocks on the ASX and a lot of stocks under a dollar.

50 they are in a regulated market and they fly just as much as these cryptos so what you’re doing is you’re warning people about trading in unregulated Market just be aware and and look I mean I don’t want to on this too much but Jamie Diamond is a perfect example the

Head of JP Morgan he came out and said that crypto itself still to to today is used for um sex trafficking uh drugs and um other s money laundering money laundering so why being why why support that I’m 100% behind that well anyway now I’m often asked guys whether um the

Strategies that we teach to trade the stock market can be used to trade Bitcoin and and other cryptos now the answer is yes and it always is yes as I mentioned earlier they work for stocks they work for Commodities they work for currencies they work for cryptos now the

Next question I get is how do you do it now right Janine right now Janine and Phil will share you a simple process that you can use to determine a strategy to trade Bitcoin now what’s the first step in that Jan the first step is to

Take a bird’s ey view of whatever it is you’re trading it doesn’t matter whether it’s a crypto a stock a commodity it doesn’t matter you’ve got to see where is it in its overall pattern and understanding and it’s something that you know we’ve talked about to for years when we were

Working on how do we actually teach people to see the big picture you know cuz I mean I was a classic example of someone who would want to drill down to the detail so we’ve actually got to get people to step back and take a look traders who are trading short term

That’s what they do isn’t it a lot of these crypto platforms that I’ve I’ve visited they’re just showing you the movement all the time short it’s like watching live data you’re watching the live data the and that’s that can be really really can I say enticing for people they’re

Saying M up and they go jump in you know and then because they’re looking at the market moving 24/7 basically well like we look at that and think that’s just rubbish you know we don’t think it’s of any benefit to anybody but if you’re looking at what you’re looking at on the

Chart here and I’m just showing the history of um Bitcoin before we go into the next point you can see that there are Trends on this there are trends really nice little Trends on bitcoin that can be traded over the long term short medium and long term but how long

You stay in it depends on whether you can get out safely and the first thing you want to look at is how do I actually you know if I get into this how am I going to get out and you can see when it

Does pull back it might be fine to be on those long runs but you know if you’re staying in it half of your profit or nearly all of it it fa 75% you’re going to lose it if you take a Buy and Hold strategy definitely can’t be doing that

So first step is if you want to say that again at the environment and make sure you understand how it actually trades and the volatility okay so what’s the next one Phil yeah look to add on to that I think back testing would be next step naturally um and back testing what

You would want to do is to go back over the history of the stock now look Bitcoin does have history from 2011 so to go back through the history of the stock and go on the chart and see how the stock likes to move what are the repeatable patterns and from that how

You can gauge a trading strategy now what’s also important is to understand that you are which part of the the life cycle you are in the stock so if we’re in a bull market you know there’s certain strategies that you can um work with if the stock is trending down

There’s other strategies you can work with if it’s going sideways there other things so you know Bitcoins have been on this massive Bull Run so um it’s much easier to do strategies when when a Market’s really really running but um yeah I would say get into your back

Testing Now’s the Time you start digging in deep going over the history working out your win loss your profit loss and um going through the whole history I mean 2011 is not that much and it’s a good chunk so I guess the first thing that you know people get surprised when

I ask them you know could you trade this on the monthly chart and they say what what are you talking about monthly chart yeah good um but with I wouldn’t necessarily go for monthly chart with this but a lot of Traders trade it on the daily they do and that and looking

At the weekly it’s just beautiful you can see some of the Fantastic entry some of the stuff that we teach in our even the trading Mentor course I can see it on there would work on bitcoin this is and when I study Bitcoin it’s it has this beautiful rhythm in price and time

And I went wow easy to trade but do I trade it no I don’t because I’m choosing not to I don’t want to trade you look at other stocks TR you look at stocks and you think well why would I trade that when I can trade and that’s what I say

I’m in a regulated market I do that I can get leverage if I want on cfts whatever else I don’t have to play in the wild west that’s just my choice but I don’t mind people trading cryptos but is it just Bitcoin or should they trade multiple different cryptos what are you

Thinking there look my thinking would be that if you’re going to put some sort of crypto in your portfolio it’ be just one you know you don’t want to just you don’t want to end up loading up the portfolio with a whole heat because they are highly volatile but if you’re really

Experienced at trading you know it’s not to say that you might not Branch out from that a bit once you’ve actually got a lot of knowledge oh look as I said to me when I look at the chart and study Bitcoin I go this would be like so easy

To trade but I don’t want to go through all the hassle of wallets and all the other stuff to with it and then trust the exchanges that you were talking about so I go just remove that I can make just as much money to other stuff and sometimes people with Bitcoin

Because they’re sold the dream if that makes sense you know they’re just so much devoted to bitcoin and crypto they they can’t see anything else uh and to me it’s like well okay pick the risk I just want to give a couple of examples here just looking at the chart if we can

Go and take a look at that so you know even a simple trend line across the tops of some of these Peaks here and underneath the Rises can sort of help you stay in the TR techniques that’s what I’m saying it’s simple to trade Bitcoin if you got the right techniques

Look I mean Phil you were talking before about these little consolidations if we can just have a look at some of them just to give an example to people even just even just breaking highs you know because this Market is you know hit that really big ball market and if we go with

What theory tells us it’s going to go to 200,000 just continuously buying when new Highs are made yeah I mean there’s a strategy there so what you’re saying is just looking at this and taking the line across there and saying through that high then you could take a shortterm

Trade on it then it’s about working out well do you stay in it for more medium term which you know if really short-term Traders trying to just get in and out on in a couple of weeks may have missed that um next rise but you know more medium-term perspective allowed the

Whole Trend to unfold and look at the profit potentially that could have um been generated from that one trade and where would you have got out well there’s a really nice little exit just there so you know there’s 300 47% and even to add to what you’ve done I mean

Look there’s another entry there so each time we’re getting highs getting broken there’s another entry there yep and you could continuously do this throughout the life of the stock and and keep getting in as the highs go on you know um at some point the trend will reverse

And like you said so it’s important to have your exit strategies in place but yep um and strategies too thinking about strategies it’s about being able to identify certain things on the chart and I guess that’s what you know people say when they starting to learn how to do

This they’re starting to see so much more on the chart warning signs so for example once it went through that last entry we’ve got on the chart there the Rises were shorter and the pullbacks were getting longer and then then you know we’re seeing this rise just through

That high there so that high in February 2021 it hardly broke through before it pulled back again all of these sort of things you’ll learn to understand indicate that you’ve got to be weary um including you know following the trend one of the challenges that I find when

People are trading Bitcoin is they don’t like to sell it because they’ve made that 3 four what happened to so many people I mean back then we were talking to people who were telling us they were putting their superannuation into it saying why in the world you doing that

Don’t ever do that well anyway to sum up should investors buy the dip now as they are being encouraged to as they being encouraged or should they be waiting right now cuz they we always say buy the dip byy the dip should they be doing that or just

Wait um look it’s it look it’s in terms of the weekly chart there is a a slight dip here but if we bring it back to the monthly chart you’ll see that it’s almost you know had a decent run out since you know the November December

2022 low so for now I don’t really see any significant dip that I would be buying in fact you’re buying into a market that’s gone up for a good four five months maybe short-term Traders can find some dip in there that they can buy but um me personally um look if you are

Looking for that continuation of the trend any new breaks of highs perhaps will give signal to you that it could be a time to buy um or just wait for a new uh dip to happen and and perhaps pick up some more around there okay so as as I

Was saying a bit earlier it’s like if it’s moving down now for the next 2 three months then it will shoot off like a rock that would that could be the perfect time to buy but if it’s rising through to the end of April opposite is going to happen yeah then it’s higher

Risk yeah so it is a bit higher R so there’s lots of little strategies around it but don’t necessarily trade I think what you’re saying is don’t trade shortterm honestly think you have to trade daily charts or inter trade chart for Bitcoin you can use the weekly yep

Um you were going to say something I was just going to say um particularly on my platform I don’t even know how you can because the spread is so high okay um to be able to trade get in and out you the spread w Really allow it you’re probably

Going to have to take more of a longer term bias yeah all right well that is it for our topic for tonight so stay with us as we still have plenty more emails and stocks to go through but before we get into that for those watching on

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Email now my next question is from Chris who says High team love your work would love to hear your views on ARB looks like it’s setting up nicely with 60% to alltime high and not much resistance above having just broken through and testing strong resistance at $34 not in

The trade but looking at this for a shortterm portfolio many thanks Chris so what do we reckon Phil yeah look um he’s spot on in terms of that resistance around $34 it’s it’s been a resistance level if we go on the chart for the stock probably one if we hover around

July August 2022 we’ve got a second example in febo3 with third in August 03 so and again Chris is right it’s popped its head up you know this year in in January 04 and now having a slight little pullback I’ll zoom in so people’s eyes don’t get burn but um look at for

Me although it’s popped its head above the resistance it hasn’t really shown especially on the monthly chart just yet because it’s had that little pullback that it’s clear through there so if I see a pushup now above that $36 level then I would say Chris yes we can have a

Good degree of um of um what’s the word good degree of certainty get excited pop the champag pop the champagne yes get excited pop the champag wow yeah so any any nice rise now above $36 will signify that that resistance has been broken uh quite quite comprehensively cool look if

I may I’d just like to say looking at the monthly chart what’s interesting to me Chris is how this stock when it got sold off in Co look how high it actually went after that I mean a lot of stocks didn’t even get through that high this

Went up 428 per. and while it may have actually done a lot of what it was going to do and this is potentially why we’re now seeing this sideways move for a little while I think that it’s got huge potential given that sort of U trajectory that it’s now experienced

Because we know that when stocks make these sort of moves often they can repeat them and so it’s now just about the setup that you’re talking about Phil and then waiting for that move through so I like it in terms of his um projections to the all-time high I

Wouldn’t be so um certain about it not pulling back around this $40 Mark I’d be seeing some strength there potentially $441 you know just watching that um for me if I was trading this I’d probably even take a short-term profit at that point I’m not necessarily saying sell

The lot become a short-term Trader um look I’ve always liked to have my foot in both camps more medium-term however just having a go aren you um but I do like to you know just take a bit of money off the table as it’s unfolding that’s a good very very very good advice

So and I mean there lots more stuff we’re going to cover tonight where I’m in the second half we got more Bitcoin stuff as well too so stay tuned for all of that now we do have a text uh this is one on IFL from Sumit um he said um it

Near the bottom thoughts so I’m assuming he’s asking us where whether the stock that we’ve got is near its bottom have you got it up yet coming right now coming right now fantastic I’m sorry it was a short a short message for you Phil so it took you a few seconds anyway but

You got it up on the screen now it’s Insignia is it um what was the code sorry IFL IFL yep you got it now all right there we go Insignia oh this is an interesting one isn’t it so he’s asking so he’s asking it is whether it’s now

Now hit its bottom so that’s what he was asking um look it’s definitely at the all-time lows um and it has potentially hit its bottom you could be right about that it’s probably a little bit early to say I’d like to see the stock do a little

Bit more and buy a little bit more I’m thinking perhaps you know at the very minimum break the $250 Mark and even perhaps start breaking that $3 mark because look you know this Stock’s had an a high of almost $111 so like we’ve mentioned especially over the last couple of weeks

It’s okay not to be the first person to the party let someone else show you that you know that this stock wants to go higher so that’s a good way of putting it yeah it is I mean I was going to I was going to say something to that it’s

Not it’s the the question has to change it’s not has it hit its bottom the question is is it now going up that’s the question ask no at the moment given that the month this bar on that monthly chart is strongly pointing down so if I just expand this up so that everybody

Can see there is no confirmation that it’s going up yet given the close on this low so the answer is no yep that’s what we’re saying to him cuz that’s what it’s a real distinction because I know a lot of people go I want to buy this cuz

I think it’s hit its bottom and the operative word there is I think it’s done it so what we teach people say no you don’t need to think about it you just need to confirm it’s going up correct and then get into it so right now too early that’s what you’re telling

Yeah I mean he’s right about the fact that it has hit the bottom it’s trading at the bottom but I mean it you know we wanted to see it it could be just sitting there you know just in a just a consolidation phase before another dip absolutely it could easily be doing that

I mean I do think it’s good to watch this one given that bottom that’s there you know I just I like the fact that it’s it’s made that low but like Phil said it just needs that extra move up to confirm it and the trend line too would

Really come into play on this chart well thanks guys now we move on our next question which is from Jack who says hi guys I’m looking at zero for the long term I think it would be good to buy in if it gets above $130 but looking at the

History of the chart it seems to have some sharp drop offs after it rises do you think it’s a good buy Above $130 and how would you recommend trading it regarding the sharp drop offs cheers Jack what do you reckon zero great 130 good choice Jack why 130 I can’t see the

Logic behind it I I think look I’ll stick up for Jack here yeah stick up for Jack the boy STI jez we’re going there are we look first of all can I just say say something if we’re going to talk about levels let’s talk about a level at

This high so Jack I think that you’re really good in terms of picking that the stock needs to go through that high before we know whether it’s going up that’s one um but just don’t pick an arbitrary figure pick something that relates to the history and if you if

You’re not sure get go onto your broker website and and look at the whole history of the the stock don’t just look at the sort of shorter term to see where these levels could be but you know I like your thinking anyway and I agree once it gets through that I’d say that

High there in July um was more likely to be going up look I’m going to say Jack is probably more clever than than we think and he’s probably given the stock a bit more leeway he doesn’t want to buy just as soon as it breaks out Above This

120 124 what’s the high here 127 $128 level he’s gone let’s break the round number Y and give it a bit more to see if it really wants to push on up I’m backing you up Jack he’s a bit C expect a Bott next look in the short term I still want

To see it get through 120 so if we look at the weekly chart we just need to confirm that the shorter term direction is moving in the right way first through that 120 I think it’s going to look a lot better the risk is that it could

Actually take out this low in the short term so that’s all we need to be watching if it does pull back below um 12th of January and I think you know sometimes we can look at stocks like this which we actually love this stock and think it’s amazing however you know

It might actually surprise on the downside and you’ve just got to be aware that that could happen yeah and I’m I’m I’m sort of with Phil maybe Jack’s being a little bit more conservative cuz the operative word in his email was longterm he’s not looking for short term

He’s not looking for 3 to 6 months he’s looking long term and our view of long term is three plus years 357 yeah so what you’re saying is give it a little bit more L just giving a little bit more breathing space to make sure it’s going

Up lowers his risk and then he’s in it long term so I love what he’s thinking about so I agree with Phil but we do have a text can you want to bring up NHC on Optima this text is from Angelo and he’s looking medium to longterm and he’s asking us our thoughts

On the stock so what have we got nice one Angelo yeah yeah nice one um look if we go to the Chart this particular stock I you know I like the fact that it’s had a nice real consolidation period over the last year or so and look that’s been

The theme for the market and um you know we commonly know one stocks consolidate generally they do break out and look it’s probably a bit early to say that this one is going to break out I’d like to see it perhaps break the $640 mark before I was confident that we’re going

To get a break out of this sideways range because look the risk here is that you’re going to get stuck here and stay in here for as long as it wants to do this so um I would like to see a break above that 640 650 Mark and then it

Would potentially be a buy sure look I’m finding it interesting here now for the shorter term Traders out there who’ll be watching volume to see how that’s going to come into play here you can see that the volume sort of just been dropping off and we’ve seen it going lower so

Therefore we’ve got this sideways move so it’s all fitting nicely if we see the volume push up at the same time as the price Rises that would give a little bit more certainty but I still think it’s a little bit risky even if we just wait

For that move up so it’s a question of where is the safe Point well look now that you’re on the shortterm chart I would also argue that what you can see here is Angelo is that there’s a gap here now the gaps some times go back and

Get filled on our Market but they also resemble that for Price the gap down that there’s been an an extra amount of in this case selling on the market so you can see that the selling started around this week and we had that huge weekly bar here which extended the

Selling so we know that there are some strong sellers around here so you know this sideways consolidation could very easily continue to break on down and continue the short to medium term downtrend so I would say it’s a bit early for now little bit early for but

Good question anyway now I know we got a lot of emails tonight and I know there’s some emails in our bonus section that we’ve got but we’ also got some emails that I came in really late that we’re not going to do tonight so if you have

Sent an email through and it doesn’t get answered tonight it will be answered next week but let’s get into our next question which is from Peter who says hi could I have your thoughts and reasons for westpack please you guys are doing a great job cheers Peter reasons for what

Well um we did talk about banks on a recent show you did two weeks ago yes and we did like Banks soaps could go and watch West wasn’t one of them was it um Yes actually it was one that I liked and westpack wasn’t one of them not for you

Well you used to like westpack but for some reason I used to work for them so that’s right um look from a long-term perspective um it’ll be interesting isn’t it because NAB used to be the dog bank and now is it westpack that’s going to turn into that I don’t think so um

Short term I can see that there’s some resistance across here we’ve said before but it just needs to test that level and then I think it’s more likely to head sort of $3 $32 that’s what I see for westpack over the next year or so okay

Phil I know you don’t like it as much look I I I don’t because it has been a lagger in terms of the all four uh all four Banks but what’s happening over the last two months it’s had two really nice strong green months and it’s closing on

Its high so um a nice little Trend that’s starting to form here and and the fact that it’s breaking out of this again consolidation period it could be one that uh you know could potentially catch up to the rest so I guess reasons for picking One bank over another I mean

That would really depend on whether you wanted income and growth and what you know come Banks extended right now so it’s had a nice run up and which of the banks haven’t had that run up while we’re on the subject um probably AZ looks interesting as well as Westpac I

Would say if you’re choosing a bank you’ve got to have the dividends good dividend plus the Capital Growth coming in as well so for me um westpack ticks those boxes well you can with argue with Janine Phil because she’s in a red jacket and westpack logo is red so she’s

Telegraphing that West Pack’s her favorite Bank stock at the moment aren you where do you get these ideas I used to work for them I used to have a big red W on my chest that’s what I used to have to wear on my thing so don’t you

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