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Morrison as we get ready uh this is this
is such a great week all the excitement
all the hard work the buildup it’s here
and I do want to ask a couple of
questions here we’ll get to Twitter on
the 20 coming up on the other side but
Brian you brought up a question that I
do think’s interesting we’ve talked a
lot about the Cowboys moving back in
this draft what about the possibility
because I think we know the Cowboys want
offensive line that’s kind of what
they’re hunting here about a team behind
the Cowboys moving up ahead of them is
there a team that you’re fearful of is
there a player if they were to slide
that you’re fearful of oh my gosh uh we
might need to worry about this because I
think we’ve seen this happen in previous
drafts before where teams kind of know
you know the Personnel departments Brian
you know that better than anybody you
know kind of what other teams are
looking at and eyeing maybe Kansas City
we’ve kind of looked at them as a team
that really wants a wide receiver could
they actually be in the offensive line
Market as they are they a team that
could maybe move ahead of you is there
anybody that’s scaring you from a cowboy
standpoint at 24 they just hold they sit
they’re waiting for a JC leam or a
Graham Barton or one of these offensive
linemen we’ve talked about to slide by
the way I I had a I had a general
manager this morning and tell me that
don’t Le them ain’t there yeah I don’t
think he’s there people are liking that
like I I was I was kind of going through
some names and you know and I said hey
what about this offensive line went and
he goes he goes don’t don’t think about
lath manager huh let’s go Brian yeah
that’s that think is seven that’s what
you do that’s what you get when you’re
really old you get to work with guys
over your he of your life but yeah this
this guy reached out to me and I just
started talking to him and I’m like
listen give me some idea about some of
these linemen at 24 and I was thinking
about laam and he goes don’t think about
laam yeah and I said okay and he said I
said what about Barton he says I’m kind
of on the fence of him getting to you
guys at 24 yeah I don’t think it’s going
to happen but like I said I did get some
positive news about uh about Powers
Johnson as well so as far as some of the
medical stuff maybe a couple different
teams have have I’ve reached out I I
just want to know I I don’t know what
this team thinks about him medically I
haven’t figured that one out yet but I
know asking some teams around the league
uh you where you know because there were
some rumors of some things that were
going on there and this guy said no we
we’ve got him as clean on that uh on
that front so we’ll see what happens
there but uh the leam one and I know we
talked about it yesterday I thought you
guys did a hell of a job yesterday of
kind of walking us through some of these
guys and some of these names but that
was one that you know you’re hopeful
about because you were talking about the
trade back situation potentially and you
were trying to Target some of the names
for the Cowboys and Le them was one of
them so that’s why I brought it up this
GM said don’t think about so probably
off the table there I have him at 18 to
Cincinnati I’d be shocked if he gets
past 18 because that’s that’s just a
perfect bengle right there is he could
play inside he could play outside they
need both of those positions it just
kind of makes sense for him to be in
Cincinnati but hey he’s maybe he’s the
CD lamb of offensive tackles well I mean
we talk about runs a lot right and and I
think that you could get a run on
offensive line right before the Cowboys
are picking and that’s why you got to
look at some of these teams like Green
Bay who’s even right behind Dallas that
also might be looking for an interior
offensive lineman I think you brought up
Jacksonville Seattle maybe they’re in
play for a lineman the Rams at 19
Pittsburgh and Miami back toback
there’re at 20 and 21 does Philly want
to go ahead and replace Jason Kelce at
Center so I mean there’s some I mean I
think we’ve talked a lot about the trade
back there’s teams I think behind Dallas
that maybe want to get up or do the
Cowboys end up in a situation where they
need to be more aggressive if there’s
one of these players that they really
really want to go get as far as trading
up potentially yeah that that’s where do
you sack sacrifice the depth whether
that be picks next year or assets this
year or picks this year I mean you’re
going to have to trade something to be
able to move up that’s that’s where I
that’s where I get a little bit
concerned um but yeah that that would be
fascinating like let’s say they they are
able to make a deal and jump up to 17
and grab leam that would be wild U or
grab a faga if he’s falling as well but
um sitting there at 24 I think if you
are trading back going back to your
initial question Zach I think teams
behind them that you would be a little
bit worried about you mentioned Green
Bay think you can make the argument that
they need all three offensive line
positions um Tampa Bay need interior
guys um at uh Arizona it looks like
they’re going to be targeting more skill
guys on both sides of the ball I think
you’re okay there same kind of situation
with Buffalo and Detroit I I think
they’re going to be targeting skill guys
or edges Baltimore San Francisco Kansas
City I think you could have a run of
offensive lineman there or you could
have a run of receivers so there’s
there’s there’s some different
opportunities there I think San
Francisco does offensive line so if you
do move back to 32 you would have to be
okay with San Francisco taking your guy
at 31 everybody going offensive line huh
especially here in the 20s I think once
you get to 16 with Seattle I think
that’s when this offensive line board
really starts to fly I I think that’s
that’s what I’m expecting at least Brian
was their team for you yeah I think that
I think Nick hit them all I was I was
thinking sorry about that no I no I
thought you know anybody in ice is right
as well I I I just these teams need
offensive alignment and and you know and
everybody’s kind of got a center
earmarked to Dallas or a tackle so if
the board Falls a certain way all of a
sudden say that Barton’s on the board
you know ahead of you know all a sudden
it looks like that Barton is going to
get to Dallas and you know that Dallas
is probably going to uh to hand that
card in boy if you’re you know if you’re
now you’re you’re worried about teams
like you know we we’ve seen it there’s
been teams in the last couple years uh
the year before Philadelphia uh targeted
you on a tie or several excuse me when
last year but Dallas Goddard if you
remember Philadelphia thought that you
were GNA draft Dallas Goddard they got
ahead of you there you thought what
Buffalo did last year they thought you
were going to take the con Dalton
concade they jumped ahead of you there
you know so if it I think that’s why
Dallas is doing the best they can to
kind of keep their offensive line
desires as quiet as they can because
they’re they’re worried that all of a
sudden if one of their guys get there
and then you have somebody jump up ahead
of them uh and and take that guy boy
that is going to be a bitter pill to
swallow for them I think for me the
concern is now becoming I don’t know how
many of their guys are going to be there
yeah and that becomes the case where I
know it’s this team has a lot of holes
to fill and they need more picks in the
trade down scenario hey if it happens
and they get wiped on some of those guys
that’s where you know Captain trade down
right we ride let’s go ahead and do this
thing but I think you might end up we
might need to have more of a serious
conversation about if you get you know a
a Troy Fu that slides down a faga that’s
sliding down that Grant Barton you might
need to be aggressive and go and get
your guy maybe it is in the late teens
or if you need to jump ahead of say
Pittsburgh at 20 who I do think is going
to be looking at one of these tackles or
a center as well the more y’all talk
about it the more I think they’re just
going to let the bo the board fall just
ride yeah I think you’re right about
that and are I’m starting to get really
nervous about this I am I am too I I
don’t know that they’re going to have
their guys sitting there I am too I mean
it’s just the way that Nick said it with
such
pessimism they can’t they don’t have the
a lot of the parts but no the part that
you said about the fact that the tra the
fact that they don’t really have the
capital or are they willing to sacrifice
the capital given what people are saying
that 2025 will look like for them would
you mortgage next year’s picks to go up
and get say a faga it it also depends
too because again the scouts the scouts
do this fulltime so they know they
probably have a gauge a little bit of
some of the guys that are maybe be
coming out next year I think it also
just dep on the depends on the board
because Nick mentioned yesterday that
they have a lot of comp picks yeah you
know if that depending on how this
because we talked about it with this
draft that some guys we’re going to look
up in the fifth fourth round and you
going to be like it’s just the way that
some of these positions are deep that
there might be some guys there that are
fourth round that are actually fourth
round picks but they’re there in the
fifth round whatever case may be so it’s
like it really just contingent on what
the board is like next next year and we
can’t predict that so it’s like cuz cuz
you you talk about the comp picks and
being able to be in a mortgage then
maybe they might have value if this
draft is super next draft is super deep
you know in those middle rounds but if
it’s not don’t nobody care about that
yeah so it’s it’s it’s give and take
I’ll throw you another little caveat out
there that could be something that could
be problematic for you Minnesota holds
that pick currently at 23 M Minnesota’s
trying to move that pick yeah most
definitely is going to be picking in
that slot is that New England you know
is that the team that all of a sudden
you know Minnesota is doing everything
in their power to move up in this board
to get a quarterback sure so now you’re
at now all a sudden that’s a different
you know Minnesota’s the team they’re
looking at quarterback oh wait a minute
what New England’s picking now at that
spot New England could go a thousand
different ways in front of you right
there especially you were talking about
offensive line and stuff like that yeah
see this is where I would be I would be
worried if I was if I was Dallas that
who just traded in front who who did
Minnesota to sell this pick to that now
I have to deal with their team needs
well the two most likely you bring up
New England and then the Chargers we
know about Hardball he loves his
offensive lineman too sure in my mock I
have that pick going to the Chargers um
and them taking Brian Thomas Jr in that
in that slot because they need a
receiver also you look at pick 22 so
you’re talking about it at at pick uh at
at pick 23 correct so the Chargers take
Brian Thomas right there yeah 23 okay
that that that that helps good thing for
you Dallas they go ahead and get their
offensive lineman at 11 in that sense so
Minnesota gives them 11 and 23 to move
up to five right and they take T this is
just my mock T at 11 and Brian
Thomas Jr at 23 yeah I think also
something else you have to factor in is
I don’t think the Eagles are going to
pick at 22 I think they get aggressive
and they move up in this draft they have
a lot of capital they have two second
round picks that they can move uh move
on and my mock I have them moving up to
12 and swapping picks with Denver and
taking a corner and Denver Denver moves
back and takes uh B Knicks um and I I
saw a mock on NFL Network earlier this
week that had the same exact thing
happening so I I think that’s probably
something to keep an eye on I think
Philadelphia could move just based on
all the capital that they have where did
they get this capital I don’t know
because it feels like they’re trading
picks every year but uh they do a good
job over there do they pick up a next
year’s one on this on that trade uh or
what did you have them man I forgot
exactly what that’s Philadelphia that’s
what philadel Philadelphia feels like
that they’re a better drafting team when
they have multiple ones well anybody
does we saw last year right but they
feel like you know but the one thing
that they’ve had these multiple ones so
far they haven’t hit on these multiple
ones there’s Georgia those Georgia kids
you know haven’t played to the level we
all kind of thought they were yeah go
for it I I wanted to say too from some
of the keep my ears low to the ground
too I think the Cardinals could shake up
some things because first of all they
they draft a little nutty anyway like
they just kind of do what they want to
do when you watch how they draft a lot
of time you’re just like what was the
plan here and they are what at 27 from
Houston M and at four and at four so I
100% have heard some Whispers that they
are thinking about doing some aggressive
stuff early but with them being at 27 I
wonder if they even feel the need to if
the quarterbacks are going and stuff cuz
I respectively what has Kyle Murray
showed you at this point that he’s that
guy it’s it’s been how many years now
how long you been there four years yeah
they’ve continued to invest in him and
continued to to say the right things
about him and I hear that but I I don’t
think they go get one I I don’t I hear
that but I I I do think that they do
have the potential to do something a
little wonky maybe at that 27th spot and
do something that maybe we don’t see
coming that I think they are a team to
keep an eye on because they’ve spoken
multiple times about being aggressive in
this draft cuz they’re sitting right
there that three through five area New
England Arizona and then the LA Chargers
you talk about these teams that want
move up for the quarterbacks Brian you
mentioned Minnesota maybe Denver gets in
play there maybe Vegas is sleeping uh in
that regard as a team that also needs a
quarterback but all those teams are open
for business Arizona moves down maybe at
the bottom of the first round maybe they
do like a Michael penck Jr out of
Washington maybe they do kick the tires
on something like that I don’t think
it’s a bad point yeah no I just I I just
think you know you’re at the I mean
again like they can pledge allegian to
Kyle Murray all day but it’s it’s it’s
some other stuff going on over there so
we’ll see and they crazy so they are
crazy last question I want to throw out
there cuz you brought up Philly trading
up for a corner which really interests
me is Corner maybe that position like
we’ve talked about runs receiver
offensive tackle he mentioned it
yesterday could we see more corners go
in this first round that we’ve kind of
been discussing he feels strongly about
this this is this is what I this is what
I said yesterday I think if you’re
looking at one through 24 you’re going
to see a huge run of offensive linemen
but if you’re looking like specifically
at 10 through 17 I think you might see
those those top corners coming off the
board I have quinon Mitchell Tyrion
Arnold and Nate Wiggins all going before
15 I think that’s when you kind of see a
mini run of corners and then you know
you still have kuer de jeene some view
as a corner I view as a safety uh
Kool-Aid mcken why is that Nick I just
think he plays better in space I think
he’s more of his own guy a good
political
answer I
want I want him more in space I want him
more in space I want him to Wi out the
space you know yeah and uh I think he
could be a more of a return guy as well
and think just being able to play in
space more I think that’ll kind of help
more as a returner as well you don’t
think about those things but I I think
that that’s something that could just
kind of play into his favor but anyway
himem asde Kool-Aid mckinstry you could
see TJ Tampa I think from Iowa state is
a guy team teams are high on I love TJ
Tampa and then Andrew Phillips out of
Kentucky is getting a lot of late steam
I think he can end up I think he’s going
to end up at the top of the second round
but don’t be surprised if a team swings
on him in the first round as well okay
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20 20 okay Aisha you brought this up
during the break and uh we want to give
the people what they want here as we’re
just a couple days away Brian there’s a
player at a Mississippi State cornerback
the Camry and Richardson yeah I tell you
what and I appreciate Aisha bringing his
name up
6210 last line of my notes is I feel
like you can line him up anywhere and
he’s going to play well uh he does play
both Corner spots he’s going to walk
down in the slot he’s got length he’s
got speed he can play Man equally or
Zone equally well I like him a little
bit better in coverage the timing the
jam when he’s walked up on the receiver
there’s some snaps in the LSU game where
the LSU receivers ran by him but he was
able to make up the ground while the
ball was in the air his speed is there
he could be a little handsy in coverage
the mirror the receiver uh due to his
speed the footwork is good he can carry
Guys across the field change the
direction the depth as a Zone player the
awareness uh all these things as you
know playing the Run he plays it well
enough he’ll throw his body around the
ball carry will wrap up uh LSU did get
him on a double move so you kind of see
a little bit of a guy that will be a
little maybe a little gessy handsy gessy
all those things but uh his speed is is
legit for making up and driving on the
ball this guy’s a a good football player
6218 big dude probably not the probably
not the heaviest guy but man the length
and the speed is impressive athletic
scores I mean he’s the top ranked corner
at the combine when it comes to athletic
testing 43 44 you know you got some you
got some good question people asking
that’s good yeah thank you uh Aaron um
but no that just kind of lets you know
how like deep this this corner corner
stretches look at De throwing up some
throwing up some he’s just that guy yeah
he’s just that guy’s ready for this I
mean yeah and you look you think about
cam Hart and some of these guys I mean I
think Kyrie Jackson he’s risen in
people’s B Kyrie Jackson’s a dog man
that’s an alpha right there this this
this corner class is kind of crazy it’s
it’s kind of crazy as far as how deep it
goes and when you look at every one of
these guys which I watched about Jesus
watched about 30 Corners yeah there
there still probably 10 more you can you
find good stuff you know what I’m saying
it’s not like you’re watching them and
you like this is all this is whatever
it’s complet traits no it’s like no this
guy really can develop like what’s going
on is it a corner apocalypse the Camry
and Richardson is from col Louisiana
which is in that aretex region 690
population so the aretex region yeah
yeah yeah AR is that AR look at Nick
here
full Tas Louisiana there it’s like you
got Vivian in there you got shreport
it’s like north of shreport but like you
know still south of sou the B so all
right there’s some C
richy too that’s my problem I got a
couple of wide receiver questions that
were brought up I’m going to combine our
guy Dean Julia and then Dustin laratonda
I’m G to kind of sandwich their
questions together here who are some of
your favorite wide receivers in the two
to three round range and then is is
there any way that you think Keon
Coleman could fall to 56 Dustin loves
the way that he uh can dominate the ball
snatch it in the air good contested
catch guy so when it comes to receivers
I mean I’ll kick it off the guy for me
the two to three round range that I just
love that I think can play literally
every single position is Jaylen McMillan
from Washington I just think he’s smooth
he’s cerebral you watch him play he’s
just got it runs crisp routes can win
deep intermediate shallow explosive in
the open field
playmaker can win in the Red Zone I
don’t see a lot of drops when you watch
him play and I love I think the
creativity you could have as an
offensive coordinator with him if you
want to play him at X you can if you
want to line him up in the slot I think
he’s a competitor to me his game
translates exceptionally well to the NFL
I have no doubt he’s gonna be a really
really strong
Pro yeah Keon Coleman I I think on that
note him getting to 56 I feel like might
be a little rich but it wouldn’t
surprise me because I I think teams that
are looking for receivers most of the
teams that are looking for re reers are
looking for athletic guys and guys that
can that can win vertically Keon Coleman
I mean he’s got the physicality to be
able to win vertically but I think if I
think most teams do want that that
Dynamic weapon with that being said I
think he goes somewhere in the 40s I I
don’t think he’s necessarily there does
make 56 yeah would you consider him if
he did gosh when Keon Coleman at 56 I
don’t think so I I know I know I get it
I get it but it in this draft
specifically I don’t think so especially
if you’re looking at Jonathan Brooks on
the board and or Edan Cooper
you I think You’ have to take one of
those two guys yeah I mean I’m I think
Malik Washington is a guy that people
are going to find some interestes in
rounds Virginia rather um but Javon
Baker is another guy there’s another
good player UCF wide receiver um very
productive in his time when he was there
but um he wins with round running
instincts and feel um he’s smooth out of
his releases I think he has he has like
a hesy he throws out you know he’s does
yeah he’s he’s very competitive and so
when you talk about some of like what
you’re looking for from a wide receiver
standpoint he can do uh con contested
catches the concentration is fantastic
he’s very QB friendly because he tracks
the ball like it’s it’s important to him
like you talk about like I said I
mentioned the effort and so when you’re
talking about you know like maybe his
size is something that people are maybe
a little bit worried about um I would
like for him to block a little bit
better on the outside when he’s needed
to but this is a guy that has vertical
threat ability but also can snatch the
ball at the air as well um so yeah I
think he’s a guy that people might be
interested in as well Alabama transfer
yeah when we’ve had people bring up like
okay a Michael Gallup replacement or
what’s your comp for for Baker to me I
see some Gallop with the way he’s able
to win along the sideline his body
control go up and get the football Brian
what do you think about Coleman at 56
and then what’s a receiver that you like
there in the I don’t think he gets to at
56 can Dre yeah I would be I would be
very surprised if that happens uh I’m
I’m ashamed I didn’t name my son benett
Ricky because of Ricky peol but no I
will go another route there I’ll give
you a guy though I really really liked
that I think the people are are going to
when he plays in the league they’re
going to be happy that they saw him play
Roman Wilson from Michigan is a guy that
I really like and I think that that when
you when you look at Roman Wilson he’s
5’11 he’s 185 he is super competitive
and you know when you when you he was a
major factor of Michigan winning a
national championship he made several
huge plays in the Alabama playoff game
to secure the victory uh you you I was
expecting a much smaller guy
511 185 he looks like he’s got some
thickness to him and the majority of his
damage is done from the slot we saw what
pukan deua did with the Rams this is a
kind of player right here same type of
guy that everything inside contested run
finds ways to finish always playing on
the Move super reliable Roman Wilson is
a guy that if you’re a team I don’t
think the Cowboys are going to draft
Roman Wilson but when he gets picked
will acknowledge that the fact that that
team drafted a really good football
player I think I brought it up where he
reminds me of like a Hines Ward because
he Blocks he’s much faster but he looks
like a Pittsburgh Steeler type of
receiver to me uh Roman Wilson’s
absolutely outstanding that’s good like
because to your point Brian when you
when you look at the the weight and the
height you think that he looks like some
small guy but when you actually watch
the tape he is like a little bit more
filled out if that’s what you’re going
for but I do think he got some Tyler
locket in him as well as far as ability
look at you that that’s a good one that
is a good one yeah and I think I just
like the swag that he has when he plays
he’s very um it’s in its controlled
speed too he’s fast cuz we see some guys
that are too fast for their own good
yeah no he plays very under control and
he’s very QB friendly and I I to Brian’s
point you can move him into the slot and
that’s where he’s going to cook we seen
what offenses are doing from that that
spot on the field he’s a he’s a guy and
it’s funny lock is a much better
comparison I think he’s another guy that
people just haven’t been like we talked
I remember we talked about him on the
show early and then I think it’s cuz
he’s he’s a little yle too you know
because he is he I wrote down this is
one of the smaller receivers in this
draft um and you know I think we’re kind
of turning back the clock now with some
of these bigger sized guys oh compared
to last year no doubt yes so yeah anyway
doubt I like him too y’all okay Nick
yeah we got this question from Tim B how
how would you feel about drafting a
Barton or a Jackson po Johnson round one
good then you follow it up with say a
Cooper BBE in round two he’s seen a lot
of Center tackle scenarios discussed not
as much Center guard early on that’s an
interesting so this is BB in the second
round this would be BB in the second
round so you know you you come away with
your Center and Barton or Jackson po
Johnson and then you just beef up that
interior yeah I had someone ask me about
drafting Barton and then moving him to
tackle and then and then putting Frasier
and then drafting Frasier so youer yeah
dra have Barton and Frasier but you play
Barton at tackle not at guard not at
guard interesting do you like Barton at
tackle I I think I like him like my
preference that’s what the question was
the guy asked me would you play him at
tackle you know I don’t think so yeah I
don’t think so either I think my
preference there would be Center guard
than tackle but also if Graham Barton is
the pick I would like to see what he
does at guard during training camp but
going back to the to the question
originally if they drive Barton BB we’re
going to have to like we’re going to
have to hold you down yeah those are two
my favorites um I I wouldn’t love re I
think I think BB at 56 is a little bit
of a reach I’m sorry Zach I I think they
still would need to go get a linebacker
I I want to see that could you get him
at 87 I think you I think you could okay
I think you but I’m willing to take that
risk maybe we get a I I just saw I just
saw how committed you were and you’re
committed that that that’s cuz if you
were to go well I don’t know then the
next thing I would say to you is we got
to draft him at 56 then yeah but I think
you could still get a guy at 87 if you
want to draft guard like if you want to
go and get let’s say an Isaiah Adams
from Illinois or a Christian Haynes from
Connecticut mahogany mahogany Boston
College by the way some general manager
dudes are asking me about mahogany like
what do we think about him that’s Center
guard Flex as well like should we talk
about him a little bit more at Center
you think I don’t think we’ve talked
about him near enough I know Aisha knows
the player but I mean to me you watch
him play he is going to make somebody I
was talking about Roman Wilson that
guy’s going to make somebody look smart
you know mahogany was great at The
Shrine B here he in Frisco I me I think
he turned a lot of heads yeah he did I
mean that that’s a physical mean nasty
type offensive lineman as well that
that’s really really good I wanted to uh
I mean on Christian uh I did an
interview with him and I asked him about
the interior Flex a lot of people a lot
of people don’t know he was a former DT
like he played DT and he’s only been
playing football for I don’t know since
was his junior year of high school or
something like that it’s not a it wasn’t
a like all my life thing but um I do he
has commented that he’s open to moving
in the interior but I wanted to ask
y’all a question because I listening to
y’all talk about cooper cooper
BB are we at a point to where the um the
versatility thing with tackles coming in
and people being like and I think some
tackles are preparing more to be able to
even kick into guard is that hurting the
true guards because tackle because of
the versatility and I’m only asking that
because we talked about Cooper BB early
in this this process I wanted to draft
him so bad I mentioned him last year and
he was returning to school yeah yeah are
we at a point to where like some of
these guys that are the true like truly
I’ve been of guard this yes yes okay
tackle more athletic yeah because all of
a sudden you’re getting you’re getting
uh Morgan from Arizona everybody you
know I think he could play tackle people
want to kick him inside I had a scout U
that does the southeast tell me lean
will be an all Pro Guard he’s a tackle
right now so the guys that are true
guards
you know yeah I think that the the fact
that people are more willing to kick
those tackles
inside I I think hurts the True Guard
yeah yeah I think there’s a lot of I
think there’s a lot of Truth in that you
look at you look at the versatility
Factor let’s just look at this franchise
alone how they like to really prioritize
guys that have versatility in any
position I I think if you have two guys
on the same level that you have graded
the same but one can do other things in
other positions you take that guy and
and obviously that’s going to be a plus
more often than not yeah I think there’s
there’s some truth in the sense that um
it might be affecting the guard class
because you look at the top of the True
Guard board you have Christian Haynes
and Christian mahogany who you could
argue are um you know could could play
some Center as well Cooper BB’s in that
discussion but then if you start
factoring in the tackles that can play
guard then you start factoring in guys
like it’s kicking them down yeah like a
Troy fanu Jordan Morgan kick
down JC Lam so everybody you named you
might want a little yeah I mean out
of Oregon State I think there’s some
people that would consider playing him
at guard as well poor guards yeah okay
they better trying to do their job
they’re like I just been playing guards
since I was in high school and y’all go
sit up here and Skip me because this guy
can do it
too I don’t know I just it’s I just was
listening to y’all and I just was like
dang Cooper B it’s also a sense that
like Cooper BB was with all due respect
was never a first round grade what what
is Nick trying to do over I actually
like I’m not standing for I got to deal
with you Bobby this is ridiculous I’m
starting all all the guy does is put
people on their rear I don’t think he
was ever like a first round grade type
guy like if if you’re looking at let’s
say let’s look at Isaiah Adams for
example who has uh who’s probably had
more tackle um um context coming into
the draft process than at guard but is
now having a little bit more versatility
as a guard I only compare him and BB
because those are both third round guys
in my stack then you would disrespect
they’re not even on the same tier get
out of here Nick then there’s probably
maybe a little bit more Intrigue in
Isaiah Adams but also you look at the
ability that Cooper BB still has in the
interior I think that’s a little bit
more of an Apples to Apples comparison
than comparing you know what Cooper BB
does straight up at Guard versus these
first round guys like a JC leam or
Jordan Morgan but that’s that’s neither
here nor there I think I think these
guards there are going to be a couple
that really excel at the next level i’
I’ve banged on the table for Christian
Hayes I do think Cooper BB will be a
great player I do I think he just needs
a little bit of time um and I I think
Isaiah Adams has the potential to be a
good player as well but you look at the
tackle board as well guys that can slide
inside there’s a lot of there’s a lot of
lots of love there too I poor guards I
know I do like Adams 2 as a guard moving
out from tackle I think he played I
think he played wherever Illinois needed
him I think there were I think there
were games where you could watch him
play tackle and all of a sudden he’s
playing guard and it maybe because of an
injuries like during the game like mid
game he playing I thought he was I
definitely thought he was better at
guard I thought that sometimes his base
could get a little wide I tackle you see
the power really translate well when you
kick him inside yeah and then I think he
has good short area quickness I don’t
know if he has like the athletic range
that’s I felt the same way I felt the
same way all right let’s go to last one
small area blocker yes PL a phone booth
there Josh Weaver you trade back to 30
with Baltimore bore Baltimore this is
what we’ve talked about Brian with
Baltimore Barton is off the board he
goes 21 to Miami
only gon is left at the top tier of
offensive tackles I want to see Nick I
wantan to Morgan
Frasier and suam Mata are all available
who do you take and why well okay do it
for the Cowboys yeah this is
specifically for the Cowboys M do it for
the Cowboys I I think you would you take
the BYU kid I’d be taking Jordan Morgan
here that’s right I would too okay so
now go ahead now now now take now take
who Dallas would take you take jpj over
Morgan if he were there or would Morgan
be your guy man the more this draft
process goes on the least the the more
confidence I lose in jpj I’d probably
going Jordan Morgan I’d probably go in
Jordan Morgan because you have
experience you have durability you don’t
have a lot of medical concerns you have
versatility I like Jordan Morgan a lot I
think you have a high floor guy that I’m
with you Brian I think he could actually
play tackle I think he could play tackle
and I didn’t move it I didn’t I didn’t I
mean but if you said okay play guard you
know I think and if find if you’re going
to kick Tyler Smith outside great but I
I I just think Morgan I don’t think
people are giving I’m not saying this
show I just don’t think the scouting
Community is giving Morgan enough credit
yeah for how good of a player he really
is it’s hard I again I think he’s just
one of another one of those guys that’s
just he’s so he was an easy for me he
was a fun watch but he was an easy watch
because he’s he’s consistent and a super
consistent steady and I’m just starting
to feel like we we just continue to see
that these guys that are not necessarily
flashy but are very consistent are just
not getting the talk and I’m like what
are you looking for an offensive Lin
right consistency and he has been one of
the most consistent offensive lineman to
me through this process I know we talked
about I mentioned the other day the the
combine and maybe I mean but the testing
numbers of course I mean this dude he
got a little got a little weight on him
we don’t care about that like he’s he’s
it doesn’t to me affect how he’s able to
wrestle and stay in front of guys um and
and make sure he stays Square so I think
he uh somebody at the draft 101 banged
the table for him and I was like you
know what yeah my guy though I actually
I did actually went back and I looked in
my notes I went back and watched him a
little bit more and I was like what are
we doing here like this this kid can
play they take the BYU kid don’t they
they do I think they do but we know not
that I think they take Morgan do you
really I think they take Morgan can I
let me ask you guys do you think y’all
never just a swing in a Miss by me I
thought you were going to say they were
going to take the B I think they take
Morgan there’s been a lot of momentum
with the BYU kid but I I’ve got Morgan
graded higher do you guys than
Su so I thinkg better are we not paying
enough attention to Zack Frasier the the
West Virginia Center as we’ve talked
about Barton Jackson po Johnson is
Frasier in play here more than you guys
take this because I I’m I’m I’m I know
you like Frasier I’m like I’m driving
along the Moonshine trails in in West
Virginia talking about Frasier okay
here’s my only favorite I’m driving I’m
running from the law talking about this
guy you know and take me home yeah
exactly here’s my only fear with Frasier
I I think that the the body control okay
so the Texas game you point to and this
is the thing that that I think I you
could say ease some of my fear yeah but
I think blocking those animals let him
get it let him get it out I I I worry at
times outside of the Texas tape can he
get overpowered a little bit like you
saw with the Tyler botes last year can I
think I think he I will say one of the
only things that I think about him is
that I think he um I I think he has
sometimes he relies on the fact that he
can recover a little bit too much his
core strength is crazy core strength is
and that’s the wrestling right there
that’s the wrestling background and he
Depend and I think he in his mind
sometimes is like I mean I can get there
and he can recover he moves so well in
space he does and so I I’ll give you
I’ll give you that but some like
sometimes the anchor I’m like man I
think it’s I think it’s grip but that
strength can improve as well yeah a
little bit but other than that though
former wrestler he’s dense Bri’s like
kick that down the road he’s feeling
like I do about BB this is a
disrespectful conversation the way he
handles initial striking I mean I think
he’s a player as well um I think he’s a
player as well do we have the Pro Bowl
you guys can buy me dinner later I like
him I like him beish is in the Pro Bowl
if you trade back in this to 30 too much
he he was that’s a good point Nick and I
like that rebuttal if you slide back to
30 Brian I think Frasier I would be very
openminded I would be open to him um but
I will say is anybody any updates on his
did you give me an update might yeah he
broke his leg Yeah broke his leg was
competing at the combine so you know the
toughness there and the competitive
level is there with that dude he ran out
of at the Big 12 pro day he did
everything asked of him at the pro day
so it sounds like he’s he’s back ready
to go I would I would think that a
rookie camp or an OTA he might be
limited in some fashion but it wouldn’t
surprise me if he’s a full go too so
he’s the only one he’s that was the only
thing about him I had a lot of good
things to say about him but oh did
you I had a lot of good things it’s not
as glowing as Brian’s notes he got to be
perfect Brian my my notes are blinking
no I did Brian’s got was the offensive
rookie of the year right now no he got
some pop to his game that the leg thing
was the only thing that I thought maybe
would deter you just talked about there
was somebody that the the uh Morgan and
who that you said they wer too far apart
who was you that you just Su Matia yeah
Su Matia and okay Frasier and these
Center dudes are not that far they are
closer than I think people are being
talked about yeah they are they are I’m
going to steal one of your lines
there he’s a lot closer than you think
he’s just dramatic okay just to my stack
here I dramatic Morgan at
28 um you got him right Frasier at 42
Kingsley at 37 see I I have I have
Kingsley at 42 okay and then the other
way so yeah that’s interesting that’s
it’s going to be fun to see how all the
boards stack up all right that was a
good addition of Twitter on the 20 let’s
kick around before the early break s
down some NFC East Division Rivals we
did get some questions about this but
are there some players that we would
think oh my gosh now we’re sick to our
stomach Cowboys got to play these cats
twice a year that’s next year’s the
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show all right let’s look look at some
of the rest of the NFC East obviously
very Cowboys focused but you’ve got uh
we’ve already talked a little bit about
Philadelphia at 22 maybe the Eagles get
aggressive do they move up Drake May at
two Drake May that that would be a good
thing I think for Brian there Washington
at two of course the Giants at six who
are some players that we would think
gosh darn it they hit uh and now the
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Texas Brian uh I think neighbors or dun
ends up at the Giants I would hate that
right now yeah I’m with you man and like
I think neighbors would be number one
for me that would be frustrating they
haven’t actually had a thousand yard
receiver since 2018 with Odell Beckham
Jr with with the Giants they are
desperate for Playmakers the one thing
that I could sell myself on like because
I love adun and neighbors is how how
they getting the ball to them what are
they doing at quarterback and is their
offensive line any good so maybe as
great as those receivers are they might
be Pratt yeah I’m with you all right
let’s do that let’s go ahead and take
Pratt but but is it just those two
receivers would that be for the Giants
you’re thinking man that’s going to be a
a tough deal yeah that’d be super tough
I think who whatever receiver they take
at six I think that would scare scare
Cowboys fans more than whatever
quarterback is taken by Washington at
two just because I gosh that that’s
immediate playmaking ability whether
it’s neighbors ad dun or Harrison Jr
depending on who Arizona picks that’s uh
yeah that’s going to be tough you look
around the division Philly as I
mentioned I think they can be aggressive
at trade up and go get a really good
Corner whether that be tyon Arnold or
quinan Mitchell I think there’s a
opportunity for them to do that but if
they stay at their pick they could also
be looking at you know guys like coer
deene or um Darius Robinson potentially
uh they could also be in the defensive
tackle Mark what Aisha said in the break
I’m G let you go um that was that was
mainly it then Washington and you got
the quarterback you bring up Cooper
deene and maybe they stay there at 22 I
kind of think Cooper de is higher on
some some teams boards than credit for
man that’s what I said yesterday you
think he’s you think he’s the third
corner I think he might be the number
one wig for some teams I think he might
be the top guy I think he might be the
number one guy now I’m with you number
one corner overall on overall I think he
could be the number one safety yeah for
sure yeah I almost threw my pencil at
you I’d play him at safety or corner I
think I think he could play either I do
like when you look at his game and his
ability to go sideline to sideline the
range I think the instinct in I wouldn’t
mind playing him at safety what
whatsoever but I’m not going to put it
past him cuz he’s a white guy that he
can play Corner well yeah I’m not trying
to see that that white man twice I mean
for the Eagles like I could kind of see
Cooper deas were talking about it in a
filthy uniform I mean and you got to
also think like teams the teams within
your division are trying to figure out
how to beat you yeah where do the
Cowboys use CD lamb who did they had
they had not one corner that could deal
with him last year I think Cooper jene
could go in that or tyon Arnold could
AR’s my number one corner yeah I mean
there other teams like people within our
division are trying to figure out how to
stop your best offensive weapon which is
CD lamb they might be looking for a
corner that can man up I know you he’s a
safety but still either way they’re
desperate for safety Heth too so that
that’d be a benefit for them if they
want to play him now um for me I mean
you already mentioned Darius Robinson
I’m not in the mood to deal with him um
but I ain’t listen I ain’t in the mood
but I do think that Philly could get
Saucy and I’m only talking about Philly
because I’m not I’m not saying I don’t
think about the other people other
people but we kind of know Washington’s
probably going Jaden Daniels there
quarterback LSU yeah they got a lot of
weapons at the commanders on that
offense that would scare me Jaden
Daniels with with Kingsbury and that
offensive sta we saw what he did at LSU
with a lot of weapons for about
Kingsbury that could cause problems I
don’t want to have to see a maybe a chop
Robinson going up against tan steel
twice a year oo the speed not not in the
mood and again it’s not even just Teran
still we don’t even know who the left
tackle is going to be for the Cowboys at
this point I think he could be a a te he
could be a tear for our division if we
have to deal with him what is Washington
didn’t they get to they got they they
got Fowler and they took every one of
your players yeah they got Armstrong
everyone everyone that you did shows
about all last year they got on their
team Dallas commanders yeah commanders
yeah you know their team well that’s
exactly what they are Beamer’s got the
chop Robinson tape man I I don’t want to
look at it Chop Chop is such an he get
off off the line if he ends up being the
best Edge it wouldn’t surprise me it’s
just the lack of finish with him
frustrates me because he finds I mean he
will blow up plays but then he just
doesn’t end up finishing and making the
tackle or making the sack but he is a
disruptive Force off the edge as chop
Robin I’ll say the opposite of that and
on chop but I’ll say the opposite Turner
is that guy to me that and I say this in
a way that that’s the guy I really have
a from Alabama have a chance to be way
wrong about Dallas Turner I have a
chance to be way wrong about him he
reminds me I don’t know which Edge it
was last year Braswell was playing
better than him on some I likewell like
Dallas Turner was very underwhelming for
too I was bored yeah I you know who else
I don’t want to see I ain’t trying to
have to see marshan nean out of uh West
oh yeah boy please please of the l n
heck yeah I’m not trying to deal with
him I me some good ends yeah it’s just
it’s the it’s the athleticism is is
through the roof with him but he’s just
his Pursuit the motor and then he has
these long strides to the QB which he’s
like it’s kind of deceptive of how fast
he’s moving he don’t look like he moving
fast but he just covering a lot of
ground A Lot quickly and he’s violent in
how he plays like that temperament that
you want from a defensive player that’s
just
like like the whole time I’m not in the
movie no he’s got a high motor uh there
there’s no question about that I know
we’ve talked about Neil before and I
think you guys are a little bit higher
on him move across the but he can move
across the line as well he can you do
see him play inside some and that did
stand out to me like I do like some of
the versatility the commanders have six
picks in the top 100 um they have two in
the second three in the
third this this is a kind of wild one
here too they will pick eight times
before the Cowboys will pick their
fourth pick please don’t say that eight
times eight times before the Cowboys
will pick their fourth pick and they’re
really and the Comm as it stands right
now we talked about them granted like
they sold their soul for like their
edges to leave last year and that really
hurt them but they’ve always been pretty
good on the interior had some decent
linebacker play obviously we already
know what the situation is there but we
T we’ve talked about them on the
offensive side of the ball for a long
time that they have guys over there they
just need to put it together they just
been lacking a quarterback I I do think
that they could be a little bit better
than maybe we would expect for them to
be going I agree with you yeah for sure
I think we all respect Dan Quinn oh yeah
he’s yeah I’m sure they’re looking to
try to turn some things around are we
gonna at the end of it because of all
the picks that the commanders have are
we going to say they had a really good
draft I mean that’s always how that
works like the Rams last year but it’s
easier to have a really good Draft when
you have a million zillion pics they are
in a place to where they are very much
so replenishing more than so yeah it
could look good because Philly had a
million didn’t they have a whole bunch
last year last year we were saying yeah
Philly did a good job and they were lay
struggling yeah
you didn’t see get ready I’m just trying
to I trying to plant the seeds for what
going to happen I hear what you’re
saying this has been fun we’ll continue
the conversation tomorrow 10 a.m. 10:
a.m. let’s do it all right we do have
the Cowboys pressure coming up at the
top of the hour thank you so much to
Nick Harris Brian question Aisha Morris
and of course Beamer Chris beam in the
back I’m Zach walchuk until tomorrow
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29 Comments
The Cowboys have turned into a freakin JOKE
Tell Iisha to put down her darn phone and pay attention to the group. Be respectful girl.
Trading down and grabbing a 4 is my ideal scenario, but it depends on who's still there at 24. I like that we don't know who they're going to pick, in past years we knew and it took away the drama of day 1.
The cowards turned off the comments on the Draft PC
Brian is the best he needs his own podcast
I want Mims SO bad… We at least need Guyton, Barton, JPJ, Morgan, Frazier to all be there at 24 and hope KC wants to move up and if so you net you a late 3rd and a 5th in return for 24 and us dropping to 32 and if JPJ or Barton or not them you go Frazier and you run that card in. Then try to land you a later round Gem/steal in Christian Jones the LT out of Texas. He went against elite comp off the edges the last couple of years. Dallas Turner, Chris Braswell, Will Anderson, Will Mcdonald etc… kicked all their asses too. You just solidified 3/5 of your OL for the next Decade+. Jones, Smith, Barton/JPJ/Frazier, Martin, Steel/Richards. We will be a top 5 OL again. Unless LB Copper or Wilson are there at 56 you go Franchise RB in the 2nd either Benson or Brooks or Wright or Allen in 3rd. #2 Rec in 2nd or 3rd round Legette, Coleman, Polk Worthy, Mcmillian, Tez Walker. Use that extra 3rd to go get you a DT to replace Hankins departure. Then fill the rest of our LB, CB, DL depth with later picks.
Iisha is great , does her homework ! She needs to replace dude off of 105.9 the fan , that foo bends over for jerry jones 🤦🏽♂️
DeJean goes to Green Bay or Philly
No trading up! Cost too much! We need picks!
Nick is such a great addition to this show. Bryan is so good explaining the nuances of the players, draft process and how the front office looks at the draft
7-10
Next year for sure
I’m sorry Captain trade down is Jeff Cavanaugh trade marked
What if Dallas trades Dak Prescott
What if New England wants Dak
The Zach Frazier conversation was so fun! That's exactly the pre-draft content I'm craving, lol.
Trading back and then trading up higher into the second round is probably the best move. This team needs two day one starter level players. Future pro bowl level. Trade up if needed. 3 really picks works.
Ill like to see them get that big dt from texas since mazzie showed nothing and they let hankins walk
For jerrys sake he better start landing on these picks.
I have Frazier on top of jpj
This feels like the best time to finally replace my man Travis Frederick. Let's go get the best Center available with our first pick. Here we Go Cowboys.⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
How is Coleman height 6032 😂
Getting rid of Dak solves your problems
Trade Lance to Pittsburgh 2 move Up N grab Barton…j.s.
You guys keep changing your minds on Morgan 😂 🤦♂️ sure let’s take the last viable LT over the best Center lol
FSU WR Johnny Wilson 6'6 231 lbs 35" Arms 4.52 40 time 37" Vert he could not be stopped vs press coverage in his career, posting far and away the top Yards Per Route Run 3.24 in the 2023 draft class 17.2 YPC in his career Dane Brugler's 22nd ranked WR with a 4th-5th round grade and he said Wilson is considered a TE by several teams
Arizona isn’t taking a QB. Smh.
After watching the bs pre-draft press conference I am very concerned about 2024. Jerry keeps effing up paying his stars early. We NEED two starting OL players and a RB in this draft and every team knows it. I’m confident we can get a starting OL player in the 1st. If we don’t get the RBs from TX or FS in the 2nd or 3rd, we need to hope for the RB from Kentucky or Purdue in the 5th. I’m not expecting this draft to fix anything close to what is lost. And for the first time as a lifetime Cowboys fan; I might just not watch anymore. Jerry is so full of crap this offseason. The team is horrible at managing contracts. Pay CD now! Or that player and Dak will walk.
I like Christian Mahogany he is a downhill mauler and tone setter In 2023 422 Pass Block Snaps 0 Sacks Allowed 0 QB Hits Allowed team Captain. On the last play of his college career he tracked down a LB on an INT for a tackle he looked like a LB or DE
I’m not in favor of moving on from 24 just because a few players on your board are gone. With that said though, for the right trade and where those picks are and how many, will make the difference. We need more draft capital and every pick we take HAS to hit. This isn’t a year to draft bench players.
My question is that I wish I could ask these guys: is this one of the most injury riddled draft class at key positions then we’ve seen in years past? A lot of the top offensive line players have injury history. Running backs are out of the first round due to injury history. Linebackers, same thing.