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We found a stock pile of crazy EFFICIENT windows and doors



We found a stock pile of crazy EFFICIENT windows and doors

build shows on the road today we’re
outside of Boston Massachusetts we’re
visiting the European Architectural
Supply showroom this is America’s
biggest showroom for high performance
windows and doors they were importing
out of Europe some crazy high efficiency
products that you may not have seen
before and in this video I’m going to
give you a little bit of a tour with
Steve basic who flies his clients in
from all over the country to come to
this exact spot now we’re going to get
into pricing performance why you might
actually want to have these sh in from
Europe all kinds of good stuff on
today’s video sponsored by European
Architectural Supply let’s get
going hey there he is what’s up Steve
what’s up buddy guys if you don’t know
Steve basic architect outside of Boston
who builds houses all over the country
and Steve I know you’ve used windows and
doors from this company a lot over the
years how do you explain somebody who
doesn’t know the European product what
makes it different well you know the
first thing I tell clients even though
they’re in Indiana or Texas or Colorado
like you really want to come out here
cuz these are windows you want to see
you want to touch you want to feel you
could talk about tilt turn you could
talk about lift and slide doors but
until you actually get out here and
experience it you know their crew here
has a wealth of knowledge I usually do
the tour with Athena we walk around I
mean it is the largest showroom of of
these types of windows in the country
and I’m probably here once a week that’s
awesome with clients or talking about
projects and such but they have a really
good array on the other side I put a put
a few of the windows together and I’ll
walk you through exactly how we talk
about it okay let’s meet back
there all right Matt so I think before
we talk about anything we should get
people’s mind straight with what a tilt
turn window is right so they look like a
casement mhm this is the inside of the
window obviously the handle here the
window turns to the inside so it’s an
inswing case it’s an ins swing casement
um that gives you the ability to clean
the window if you’re on the second or
third floor very easily they come with
integral color match screens yep on
there and I’m also noticing I’m sorry to
cut you off Steve right away I noticed
gosh this thing locks all over the place
around the frame so you get I feel like
when you do these windows a very when
you close kind of feel yeah you can’t
see it but you can actually see the sash
engage the frame and it draws it in now
if you turn that 90 the top of the
window drops in about 7 Ines and this is
how Europeans vent their windows and
what’s really interesting is you get you
know my American clients they sit there
and say well Steve you don’t really
understand we like to open our Windows
this fence the largest of rooms in your
house plenty of it’s it’s a huge myth of
that we need to open it up to get a lot
of air because the houses that we’re
putting these in have passive house air
leakage numbers yeah they tight houses
they’re very very tight getting that
ventilation and fresh air is really nice
on those nice days now what’s this
window made from I mean as I look at the
profile of this window it looks like
aluminum but it’s not is it no this
one’s a upvc and it has a film on it
okay so we have multiple options here
that we can service and we did put this
array here and we can start over here so
that window is actually probably this
profile right here which is very similar
to that yes uh upvc on plas ized uh poly
Vinyl chloride yep which is pretty
typical in Europe not as common In
America which is different than a
standard vinyl window and then they’re
putting a film on the outside which you
can choose a bunch of different options
right they have upwards of about I think
it’s like 45 different options these are
all of the options and these are the
actual films that you put on there I
like that and they have not only do they
have colors but they have wood grains
and I don’t know if you remember but we
did that ranch remodel mhm with the upvc
and we use this one it’s right up next
to the fur I mean it’s beautiful and I
did a house in Austin not too long ago
uh with this exact uh exterior and boy
it looks a lot like aluminum you could
not tell it’s not aluminum yeah that’s
their anthros site gray which is
probably their bestselling color
probably like two out of every three
window sails we use okay people just
gravitate towards that color now what’s
this guy this is I’m assuming an
unfilmed probably that’s an unfilmed
that is the the kind of bottom of the
price Barrel lowest cost yes all white
still triple glazed the film certainly
adds a little bit of a cost to it you
know one of the things I tell clients to
remember when you’re looking at the
window the glass igu is the cheapest
part of the window the frame is
expensive the more I ask the frame to do
the more expensive it gets so the
cheapest window is a fixed white upvc
window with the glass in it that’s big
gotcha for you know unit or for square
foot cost the unit cost gets higher but
that price comes down as the square foot
of that window increases and I’m
noticing that all these samples Steve
are triple glazing meaning three panes
of glass with two different airspaces
which typically is going to get you a
uor or an r factor an insulation value
of maybe double what some of the
standard American you yeah these are
they probably rival
to start at Double and what’s really
what’s really crazy is that just like
the cost the glass is the better
insulator than the frame so if I did a
say a 10t wide window 6 foot tall out of
these not only am I getting the best
square foot cost I’m getting the best
performance cuz the center of Glass on
these is r10 it’s
0.10 the frames bring it down uh now
I’ve been authorized to talk cost and uh
and I’m always hesitant to say cost
because I know that things vary
depending where you are in the country
and the economy changes but the video is
still watched but they tell me that you
can see this style window in the $ 3030
to $50 per square foot range so that’s a
pretty affordable window and I would put
that against a lot of domestic Brands
yes yeah I mean we have priced them out
comparatively and they do from a cost
perspective they’re about yeah equal or
sometimes better maybe sometimes a
little little worse but understand I’m
getting a u Factor here of18 .15
.13 as opposed to30 that’s amazing right
so it’s it’s twice the performer
remember U factors Double R value right
so we need to divide that by or we’re
talking like R6 R S Plus on some of the
larger windows and you know we can move
up from the upvc like I said you only
have this profile so if you wanted a
different profile or there are size
limitations to this if I start pushing
this past about 10 11 ft they start red
flagging me and say we really should
move towards aluminum okay so this is an
aluminum sample and I’m assuming that’s
not a solid aluminum window though it’s
is not a solid aluminum you can see it’s
all thermally broken there’s an aluminum
frame on the outside aluminum frame on
the inside and then it’s fully thermally
broken in between gotcha so I like that
a little bit of a hit compared to that
but when you normalize it against the
whole house doesn’t even show up on the
energy screen as far as being aluminum
gotcha um now the cost of the aluminum
um is probably somewhere around twice
the price okay so you’re paying a lot
more for it but your color range now
goes up to about 250 different colors
jeez you can just Google the r color
chart every color on that chart is
available able in in their alumin window
impressive that’s a nice window now
there’s another option beyond that too
and there’s another option beyond that
there’s a gentleman ducham who owns
macro and windows these are the woodf
framed version with an aluminum clad you
can also get them in just wood if you
wanted to Patrick actually has those on
his house the owner of EAS but the
beauty of the wood frame is you
definitely have a lot of options here
and you see this is kind of their Ultra
Modern where the sash actually operates
behind the frame NE so you don’t get
anything but that very contemporary look
the uh notice that the wood frame is
it’s made in what they call scallions so
it’s a bunch of boards where they rotate
the grain very much like Plywood And so
they can get smaller growth wood put it
together make these Big Blocks and then
they Mill the windows out of it but usam
you tell them what would you want he’ll
Source it it’s just a matter of getting
some
1x4s and Milling it up and they make
these right in his shop pretty neat uh
and if we haven’t said already this
showroom outside of Boston is importing
several different brands from Europe
they’re doing all the work for you
they’re giving you prices and American
prices they’re shipping them right to
your job site so when I used these
windows uh from E on a job in Texas not
too long ago I had to container trucks
show up at my job site we unloaded and
installed them and they’re a little bit
different on install Steve and I have
made a ton of videos on that but
everything is pretty normal pretty much
like what I’ve done for everything else
in terms of ordering Windows getting a
cost figuring that out and if you get
nothing from this video I think one
thing that Steve and I want to make sure
you understand is that we’re going to
get really good performance sometimes
double the performance of some of the
domestic brands at about the same cost
well you know what’s really interesting
you go from those to these twice the
price you go from these to these you
probably add another 10 or 15% oh is
that right this glass unit that one that
one and those two exactly the same yeah
so whether I buy the upvc the aluminum
or the wood frame the IG units from St
gban are exactly the same so this
actually ends up becoming the cheapest
on the table or least expensive and it’s
the best performer how about that that’s
pretty awesome pretty cool all right
Steve we’ve talked Windows how about
doors let’s talk about doors real quick
they have anything you know one of the
things we didn’t talk about is none of
these windows are stock sizes so we do
whatever size that we want to use and we
send it and they just get made so the
idea that it’s a shuko window shuko
makes the extrusions EAS hires a
fabricator to manipulate the extrusions
into the window frame and actually build
the windows Goa so shuko is just the
company that makes all of the parts they
window and so because these just come in
20 20 or 24t lengths we can make
whatever window size we want that’s
pretty awesome and they just fabricate
it we certainly have some limitations
but the same with doors if you want to
lift and slide door we can do an
8-footer that has a 3-ft operator and a
what’s that 5ft fix panel or we can do
four and four so however you want to set
it up if you want to do a 20ft door with
a 4T sliding component or 5 foot you
just tell them what we need and they
make the door to order that’s pretty
awesome so while we’re here at the
showroom Steve let’s show these guys
some of those options we’ll see you in a
couple Matt you know these are European
Architectural Supply windows and doors
but they don’t look much different no I
mean this looks the same as a normal
patio door doesn’t it right full Light
Glass but this one’s only a double glaze
certainly we have the triple glazed
option the thing I love about these is
not only do they look good but you can’t
help but feel the quality you know when
I’ve been to your house as stepen felt
these doors they feel like bank vault
doors I mean they they have that feeling
of like oh yeah that closed solid so no
lie I have two clients that I know of
they have parties all the time the
husband’s favorite thing is come check
out my do come check out my he like
gives a whole class on the lift and
slide door awesome but so what makes him
different then Steve how are these how
are these different than a typical kind
of the American style door with a single
point of of uh locking that we’ve seen
all the time yeah so these have the
multi-point locks and not to beat up the
domestic some of them do have you can
lift the handle and they have the
three-point Locking System but like
everything else here these are all built
to order so there’s different price
points that we can hit if you’re using
this as a door that say maybe I’m just
going to go out you know 10 times a year
then a lot of times we do it as a walk
through window oh okay so the bottom is
basically just the same window frame
it’s little less expensive so it’s a way
to shave off a few dollars or you can
buy like we have here a real threshold
you can get it so that it’s keyed locked
and they also make Adu so if you’re
putting these in commercial projects you
can also have that but it has that
engaged multi- gasketed system around
where that sash G engages that frame
yeah so just to piggyback on that then
Steve you’ve got a typical gasket on the
jam like like we’d see it on American
Products meaning one gasket but what’s
different here is you also have a gasket
on the swing door and that’s all the way
around the outside of the door it’s
probably a little hard to see but here’s
that gasket and that also is on the sill
so when it closes against the threshold
you’ve got a gasket on the back side of
that as well not just a threshold gasket
and I think that helps really make this
a very uh airtight door and helps give
that kind of bank vault feeling when it
closes and again just like the windows
250 plus colors that I get to choose
from and it’s not it’s not like I go
from these five standard colors to these
10 and the price just keeps going up y
pick a color same price and this door
even in triple glaze could be like under
five grand yeah not bad at all which
performance- wise it’s the worst part of
the wall it’s always going to be the
worst part of the wall y so why not put
something in there yeah now you’re
talking if that’s a triple glaze that
could be like an R six yeah something
like that very easily uh and what I like
about the showroom too Steve a lot of
options on display I mean this is a
beautiful entry door right here check
this out this door uh believe it or not
is not actually wood when I walked in I
said oh man what kind of wood is that
that’s beautiful is that a is that a
white oak no that’s actually a a fake
right it’s a it’s a uh a veneer product
uh that is never going to need to be
stained it’s never going to need to uh
it’s not going to fade it looks amazing
very contemporary and you got a sid
light and this could be this again those
really low U factors really high R
values compared to some of the domestic
options and they’re telling me this
could be under 10k and for you
Architects and homeowners out there just
like the doors and
windows you could change the spacing on
these aluminum you can chase change the
door handle size the species the color
the size of the sidelight we can make
this 8T long if you want to put it say
in a hallway or whatever so because it’s
made to order you just you could come
out here and have a talk with Athena or
Patrick or Greg any one of them and then
they’re going to walk you through and
it’s more about what do you want not
what do we have yeah which is why I love
coming out here that’s very cool
anything else we need to see the show
room we actually should look at the one
we have one more right around the corner
it’s a a patio door that uh let’s go
through this way and see it that acts
exactly like the windows okay so this is
what you were talking about earlier
where this door uh looks like a door but
in fact it’s really a window oh look at
that even the screen uh acts like a door
that’s kind of cool so you can get you
know color match screens M on the
outside just like that but if you turn
that and then rotate that up okay you’ll
notice oh now we can ventilate it too so
you can ventilate it so if you put this
out by your patio and you say hey we
don’t want it the door open cuz we don’t
want the kids or dogs to get out but we
want fresh air you have that as an
option and oh by the way this is going
to end up costing less than this other
door behind us cuz it doesn’t have the
threshold it’s made like a window this
is also upvc that this one has just one
side of the film applied so this is a
pretty economical window SL door now you
wouldn’t use this for your entry door
this isn’t going to be keyed on the
outside notice there’s no Hardware but
if this is getting out to your pool or a
door you’re going to go out like you
said earlier six times a year this is
perfect yeah ventilation
Escape in an
emergency but really nice cost you know
these are really good examples of hinged
doors but where I think European doors
go off the charts liftting slides let’s
go check this one out we got a cool one
to show
you all right Steve what do we got here
brother so this this is a quad lift and
slide it splits down the middle two
doors that meet and then they Park on
their adj 10 this this is a 10t by 20t
unit oh my gosh each one of these panels
is 5ot yeah and you did it quick if you
rotate the handle notice the elevation
change in the handle oh it’s it’s
actually it goes up on a set of wheels
got I mean each one of these panels as
you pull it understand that that’s
probably about 8 or 900 lb so so and
check that out pretty smooth they’re
very smooth I can stop it anywhere and I
can lower it back down onto the weather
stripping and I can’t move it holy cow
right that’s serious and then if I
re-engage
it
then we can pull it open we get that 10t
opening now this is not an inexpensive
door though this is not an inex use
these inexpensive houses but this is
probably somewhere in the, to $1,300 per
linear foot range right which is right
where a lot of the domestic brands are
as well when I think of lift and slides
when I think of big 10ft by 20 foot
openings and filling that with a door so
you I mean you’re talking a 20 some
$225,000 door here yeah but you’re also
talking some of the best Hardware in the
world you’re talking about some of the
best airtightness specs on any slider
built in the world so yes it costs money
but good things cost money however they
also make the same action Steve for kind
of normal sized homes as well if you
don’t have a giant opening and I’ve used
this actual product before I used this
on a house in Texas this is a lift and
slide yep uh that is upvc on one side
and then if you look on my side Steve
look at this oak finish really nice yeah
this is that that’s that film technology
and it’s you know I always tell people
if you stand here and you analyze it
just the door you might say well it
doesn’t quite look like wood but if you
trim that out in Oak and then you set it
in your living room nobody coming
through that room is ever going to know
yeah you know and this has exactly the
same quality as that window over there
it’s just a upvc frame which helps bring
down that cost man this has been a
fantastic tour I really appreciate you
giving us kind of a secret look uh at a
resource that you use all the time and
literally you fly clients in from all
over the country uh we’re at European
Architectural Supply this is outside of
Boston Massachusetts totally worth the
trip these are great people to work with
I’ve shipped units from them that were
built in Poland and delivered to me in
Texas and it was a super smooth process
Steve you you’ve been using these guys
years I’ve been using these for probably
20 plus years on projects very first
passive house we ever did um but the one
thing that I want to stress the most is
I I hear it all the time oh it must be
nice to put those real expensive windows
and doors in your projects but they’re
really not you need to come down here
you need to talk to Athena or Greg
Patrick and you need to have a
conversation because you’re going to be
very pleasantly surprised at how easily
you can get these incorporated into your
project it’s really good stuff big
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Matt meets with Steve Baczek at the European Architectural Supply Showroom right outside of Boston, Massachusetts to talk about crazy efficient windows and doors. With a focus on modern design and performance, these windows and doors offer unique features like aluminum construction with customizable color options, and smart designs. Learn from industry experts about how they design these windows and doors to last.

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46 Comments

  1. I bought the best Pella sliding wood patio door 20 years ago that is colored plastic exterior and a real wood interior I painted with 6 coats of the best paint I could buy. Two primer coats 4 finish coats. The plastic sealer parts inside the frame fell apart after 15 years! How do I know these will last 40 years?!!

  2. I have UPVC tilt and turn. keeps the house warm. the best. They are made locally in sydney. We have 4 UPVC factories in sydney. Going underutilised really because no government subsidies for them.

  3. Best part about this vid was the openness about the general pricing. I thought they would be insanely priced, but just a little pen to napkin math, it really isn't that bad (all things considered) Thank you both for continuing to help educate the prospective custom home customer in knowing more about what really needs to be in a home, & not just interior designers gone wild (HGTV)

  4. Those are triple glazed. Over the top for our temperament climate. I have double glazing, couldnt afford triple glazing. And the white frames. It feels great and doesnt feel like plastic. I have jet black film doors.

  5. I bought Sierra Pacific casement windows for my new build just a few months ago… and man I'm kicking myself now. I looked into EAS windows, got a quote for something similar (different supplier) but with the install being different from the typical American nailing flange… it worried me that my builder and his subs wouldn't do it right (they had never even seen these before). I sooooooo wish I had gone with them anyway. I absolutely HATE the SP windows I got… even more since the price per window was about $100 more per window than these!

  6. I noticed watching your videos (also Steve’s) that you install windows flush with the exterior walls. While in Europe (generally for new buildings) the windows are installed flush with interior walls for thermal efficiency. Also our walls (wood, concrete or brick) are wider than a foot per code so maybe that’s why. And one funny thing, if you think that the windows are expensive, try to purchase shutters they’re at least 3x the cost of the windows.

  7. Being in California, I researched the triple-glazed windows and one web site featured metal roll down shields. I thought they'd be handy for the wild fires out here. The ultimate home would have steel beams and concrete construction to be termite and earthquake resistance and those triple-glazed windows with metal roll down shields for fire resistance ? Just dreaming of my ultimate home here.

  8. I was thinking I could probably just go with one of those really big sliders for a garage door. I get a 10 foot opening that should work. The other thing is if I could get automatic opener for it would be great.

  9. Matt and Steve- another great video. Quick question, I notice US makers like Anderson and Marvin, among others are now offering similar products. What’s the difference? Would you review them?

  10. These windows are not very expensive in Europe…. The US really overpays for everything. That these windows end up the same price as domestic windows despite the import costs is sad

  11. "How efficient were the windows?", you ask. U-0.18 thru U-0.10 (R-5 to R-10); prices are "in line" with domestic brands, according to the presenter. ($30-$50 per sq. ft)

  12. They were more expensive than other companies. They could not give me DP Ratings or any data for hurricane prone areas. As a PE, I cannot put these on drawings as they, EAS, cannot provide that kind of data. Yes, you use them in Boston, but you do not get the hurricanes of the southeast.

  13. I built these house doors, interior doors. Installed them in Austria. No nails needed America.

    I wanted to distribute doors and windows in the late 90's here in America.

    I have my full size systems still. Windows and door systems. I wanted to educate America on these great systems.

    Even the BLUM hinge system allows you to move the doors up,down,left & right.

  14. Nice wall openings. Their susceptibility to becoming impaired due to dust and gunk is a concern though. Will have to take a trip out to see them firsthand.

  15. I am european and a failed architect. Its always amusing watching americans, australians, kiwis… to be amazed by the quality of housing and its elements. But its actually very very simple. Europeans tend to spend more and for longer lasting products. Thats all. If that would be important for americans, you would have the same standards.

    Americans move more and dont grow roots to the same length as europeans. For the good and for the worse.

    And of course I am generalizing both continents of the northern atlantic ocean.

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