TIME TO STOP REGULAR DCA’ing BITCOIN POST HALVING.
so today what I want to talk about is
dollar cost averaging or Not dollar cost
averaging especially as it pertains to
as we get past the having so we actually
talked about this uh about three or four
days ago and we determined that dollar
cost averaging post the having is not
the best idea and I’m going to explain
why that is and the technique that I’m
going to be using moving forward so this
is what we are talking about today of
course we’re talking about Cycles
fouryear Cycles I’m still a big believer
in those I still think they have
relevance and what I want to take a look
at is a time frame because we can’t go
to the Future because I don’t have a
crystal ball but we can take a look back
in time 2018 19 20 21 and 22 for the
last having now we already had our
Bitcoin having this year that was on
April 19th 2024 so what I’m going to
take a look at today is three types of
dollar cost averaging in the last cycle
we’re going to take a look at what uh
our returns would be if we started on
January 1st 1st 2018 which was right
after the peak of the previous uh bull
cycle which ended in uh December 2017
we’re also going to take a look at what
it would look like if we DC from January
1st 2018 just to May 11th 2020 and also
take a look at what it would our returns
would be if we started dollar cross
averaging on May 12 2020 which was the
last having to November 30th 2021 which
was essentially uh the big huge Bull Run
so let’s take a look at that first piece
we’re going to take a look at Dollar
cross average in between January 2018
all the way to November 31st 2021 and
what that would look like so I’m of
course stealing all the information from
front of the show uh Ben from his uh
website in the cryptoverse and this part
right here you can sign up for the the
the DCA tool it’s very free it’s free to
use and we can see that if we just put
in $10 a day from January 1st 2018 and
stopped on on November 2021 here’s what
our results would be it’s actually
pretty good I mean let’s be honest I
mean 10 bucks a day if we put that in
Bitcoin just taking a look at Bitcoin
itself is right in the middle you’re up
645 you would have invested
$144,000 roughly and you would have
105,000 that’s pretty good
congratulations for not a lot of time uh
roughly three years you outperformed
every single class out there you’ve
crushed S&P 500 you’ve crushed
traditional equity you’ve crushed gold
and precious medals and you’ve done
pretty good eth you would have done even
better you would have been up
1,576 per. so almost two and a half uh
better than Bitcoin cardano 25.74% link
36 38% salana
4,000% maddo almost 5,000 and Doge the
king of all meme coins
7,500 now uh there’s some that would
have definitely underperformed that
would be Stacks the uh layer 2 solution
uh which is smart contracts built on top
of Bitcoin it’s only up 443 per. that’s
still not bad Adam avax near an
ejectable and immutable X of course just
getting running in that time frame it’d
actually be down quite a bit so that was
again just taking a look at dollar cost
averaging for roughly three years
straight and not changing up a thing so
of course when we’re taking a look at
this we’re thinking ourselves well Rob
why would I get into Bitcoin why don’t I
just do a bunch of altcoins you’re
telling me right now altcoins the way to
go no it’s not what I’m saying altcoins
are great but you got to pick the right
ones here’s a snapshot of January 2018
let me know if you know these altcoins
that were in the top 18 icon Bitcoin
gold Iota Neo Stellar all right nem and
some other ones of course the top 18 you
know Bitcoin ethereum xrp Bitcoin cash
was number four I don’t know if that’s
even the top 30 anymore and then of
course we’ve got Dash some people will
heard that Monero Tron eth classic but I
mean some of these you’ve never heard of
or you may have heard of in passing
that’s why when we talk about altcoins
it’s very risky risk to reward uh the
reward is quite high and so is the risk
so let’s just break this down taking a
look at the same cryptos that you buy
into but let’s go from just January 1st
2018 again after the alltime 2017 and
you stopped at the having and what it
would look like going into November 2021
so remember you are dollar cost
averaging from you know January 2018
just to that having of the previous
cycle you’d actually have done better by
just stopping your dollar cost averaging
Bitcoin you’d be up you would have
invested $
8,620 and you’d have $79,000 some people
would say well I I don’t have that much
yes you don’t have that much because you
didn’t put in as much but you’re are why
is 200% higher Sana 1,255 eth 2123 adaa
3178 mad 55 link 55 and Doge again
crushing it almost 10,000%
congratulations and of course some other
ones down there so now that we taking a
look at that let’s just play Devil’s
Advocate and say okay well what would
happen if I just dollar cost average
just from the day after the having to
the bull run because you know that’s
what I wanted do because as things start
going up that’s what I want to invest to
not so fast so again $10 a day for May
12 2020 the previous having and we ended
on November 3021 how do we do pretty bad
quite honestly that’s why like right now
as we’re getting into this the return on
investment is diminishing especially for
the number one crypto that’s out there
which is Bitcoin and I think this could
actually happen again now I don’t have a
crystal ball but you take a look at
historically this isn’t the greatest
time Bitcoin still up 213% yes you’ve
beaten everything you’ve beaten
everything in S&P 500 most of the
equities that are out there precious
metals probably even real estate
definitely real estate 23% well not
definitely but sure you’re doing pretty
good near 24% Adam 412 Stacks pretty
good 588 avac 608 eth 641 Ada 914 and
what do you notice about this you’re
taking a look at this and you’re like
you
know if I’m taking a look at the all I’m
crushing Els look at Doge
4,300 madic 400% Solana almost
10,000% up and that is a wildly
different from some of these other
charts and we can tell that the the
lower down on the totem pole that you go
as far as the different altcoins you can
see that as we get past the having
altcoins have a better return than some
of the top cryptos Bitcoin being number
one so does that mean that you should
invest in Bitcoin that’s what I’m saying
I’m just saying that as far as the risk
vers reward and the and the ROI there
are some diminishing results so then
let’s take a look at this and this is
where most people get stuck this is why
people call crypto ninjal asset a scam
and a Ponzi because they get in when
everybody else is getting in when they
think that it’s like the hottest thing
of all time so look at this let’s say we
dollar cross average on October 2021 and
we see how it goes well what usually
happens is you get that big pump and
then everybody comes in all the
different tourists then they right all
the way to top they think they’re
Geniuses they tell their family and
everything else and it goes and they
last for like five or six more months
after that maybe seven and then it goes
to like zero and this is the problem and
this is where we see like these types of
return on investments and just how awful
it actually is look at Bitcoin 62%
injectable 967 near negative 80 Stacks
83 salana netive
87.9% so as we get into this just be
aware that as far as dollar cost
averaging for me when I’m looking at
this Bitcoin looks pretty good I mean as
far as like in the beginning but then as
we get past the having it kind of trails
off and then of course we have some alts
but those are risky so right there we
talk about this last time I would just
say stop and that’s it but there was one
more thing that uh really pulled this
all together and that is what I would
like to call Dynamic
DCA and what is that well let’s take the
same example let’s say we take from May
12 2020 because before that everything’s
good right if we go from January to May
or January November we’re good but may
2020 to November 3021 again we’re right
after the last having to the Bull Run
let’s say I do what’s called Dynamic DCA
what is that well I’m taking a look at
the time and risk band which I get from
Ben’s website and the cryptoverse links
in the description
and you can see that when we’re time in
these risk bands what I want to do is I
want to not buy when they’re at a higher
risk band meaning if we’re on the 0.9 to
1.0 on the far right hand side that
means that there’s only been 18 days
when it’s been that hot for the Bitcoin
price action 0.8 to 0.9 is only 80 days
and then of course when the price starts
to go down the risk reduces and this is
how many days you’re actually in you can
see right here this 0.3 to 0.4 that’s
the Lion Share which is right in the
middle of where bitcoin’s been so what I
want to do is I don’t want to buy in 0.4
to 0.5 or 5 to six 6 to 7 7 eight 8 to N
I just want to start buying right here
only 0.3 to
0.4 and then when it drops in price even
more we have some other black SP bent or
something I’m going say Okay I want to
buy some more but I want to double what
I usually buy and drops again to this
one to two I want a quadruple and when I
want to get to the 0 to 0.1 I want a 6X
what I usually buy because there’s only
134 days in the entire existence of
Bitcoin of when this actually is what I
like to do is I like to download the app
on my phone and then it just gives me
these notifications like hey Rob wake up
uh right now Bitcoin risk is 0.6 do you
do something well for me not but when it
goes to 0.3 to 0.4 you know I’m buying
two to three one to two and so so on and
so forth so if we take a look at that if
we would have just done that and we
would have invested in from last last
hav May 12 2020 to November 3021 instead
of that 200% if we would have done
Dynamic DCA our profit and loss our Roi
was
561 per just by stopping buying and then
doubling tripling quadrupling 6 Xing
what I usually buy now if you want to
find the time and wristbands there’s a
link in the description and that’s for
uh Ben’s sit now there may or may not be
a sale going on depending on when you
watch this but you can check that out
it’s 39 bucks a month or they have
yearly or they have even a lifetime one
if you want to go that route but there
is one last thing to take a look at and
I thought it was interesting I didn’t
include in the original video I’m going
to compare dcang equal amounts to
Dynamic dcang you know today is April
22nd 2024 we just had the Bitcoin having
three days ago the ending date right
here let’s just go to June 1st 2022 this
is what I should have been doing the
whole time and I I dabble in it but I
but now I see the error of my ways I
should have been doing Dynamic DCA check
this out if I dynamic dc8 in from June
1st 2022 again that’s example that we
took a look at when everybody leaves
because they think it’s a Ponzi and I
would have stopped dollar cost averaging
on April 22nd and I would have done
what’s called Dynamic
DCA Bitcoin 10 bucks a day in those time
and risk bands I would have had had I
would have put in
$60,000 and I would have 192,000 or a
217% increase but let’s say we do DCA
equal
amounts I’m only up
151% so how would that look like on
Smalls let’s take a look at ethereum if
I did ethereum 10 bucks a day same time
frame I would be up 85% if I would do
the dynamic I’d be up
124% let’s take a look at cordano if I
would have done this whole thing I would
a dynamic DCA I’m up 55% which isn’t
that great I gota be telling with you uh
Cardon has been an underperforming but
if I just would have been like hey DCA
every day forget it I’m not going any
Dynamic stuff I’d only be up 36% so
again even though it’s not minuscule
it’s a lot I mean
36% versus 55% you’re still
outperforming the S&P 500 let’s take a
look at this how about polka dot ah
36% that’s not too great how about DC
equal amounts only 25% really bad quite
honestly how about uh chain link again
DC equal amounts I’m up
91% Dynamic DCA
125% and so on and so on and so on so
look there’s a lot of things to break
down in that video I know it was a lot
watch it a couple times but it’s the
Whole Thing Remains pretty much the same
there are some ways to increase your
return on investment there are ways to
actually get around what you’re actually
trying to do and just take a look at it
a little bit different now of course I
am not a financial adviser I can’t give
you Financial advice but just take a
look at this and determine if this is
right for you moving forward that’s it
for today so look you like today’s video
give it a thumbs up we talk about his
time sensitive that’s it for this one
thanks so much for stopping by I
appreciate you and I’ll see you on the
next one
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31 Comments
10 bucks a day? I imagine the fees would take a big chunk.
Thanks, Rob. On point as always
Dumb
Nice, good work Rob.
Question bitc fans: how long is the inflated btc gas fees going to continue. You cant send 50. in sats bec the fee is larger than (in this case) your btc transfer. Is this gouging the new normal. thanks in advance.The current issue is the fees are larger than the amounts you may be seeking to transfer to private wallet which can o course impact DCA the subject at queue today. Furthermore Coin (base) does not indicate how far your transaction is out of range relative to the amount to be sent. One may not wish to buy more to fractionally add to determine the fee level, wich in any event will cost more than youre trying to send.
Always a pleasure to watch. Gonna put in my predictions here: 87k ATH by December, following cyclical low will be about 65k. Every pull back below 65k I DCA in, every run above ATH I shrink my position to just risking profits. Potentially leaves a lot on the table, but givin BTCs history, this is my current method. I own BTC because i believe in the project, I sell because I know its volatile.
Mr DCA that's you !
I didn't understand the time in risk bands chart at all
A better way to DCA is to buy each time it dips below your previous buy. Simple.
Thanks Rob š
Been getting my advice from Rob for 5 years now, finally not living under the bridge. Thanks
Thatās so funny. I know the old top 20 better than I know the one now š
bitcoin cash is 16
I stopped cost averaging a while ago. Canāt wait to dump my bags on the late folk. Iām dumping way before 100k. Everyone and their mom thinks weāll just sail right through 100k.
Good luck with that.
I'm dollar cost averaging no matter what
Thereās no November 31st! Nails on chalkboardā¦
this vid actually shows DCAing a small amount every day is a very smart idea for BTC and probably SOL and ETH on the real long haul, not trading, if you can stick to it and avoid selling at bear bottoms lol. Dynamic DCAing really cool too
To be realistic, Rob, I donāt think digital tourists even think of any DCA strategy and are less likely even to have heard about it as a possibility. Theyāre much more likely to invest moderate lump sums since theyāre thinking much more short term, whereas DCA is clearly a long-term strategy.
I donāt have an income that comes close to covering Metro Vancouverās expensive rent, let alone any other expenses, so I rely almost entirely on my few lump sum investments (mostly divorce settlement and estate inheritance monies) from November 2022. The summer 2023 drawdown was so unnerving that I switched from longterm investor (HODLer) to swing trader at my breakeven point in autumn 2023.
The problem is that even though I used a wide array of technical indicators to place limit orders instead of incurring slippage and higher fees from market orders, it ironically would have been far more profitable (and less of a tax nightmare) to have just left those collective lump sums untouched instead of futilely trying to squeeze additional profits out of that money by actively trading, especially since my swing trading leaned precariously close to day trading. I also tried grid bots, trailing stop bots, and everything else EXCEPT DCA so far.
This video comes at interesting timing because itās exactly today that Iāve been thinking of taking the cash (stablecoin) that has resulted from this monthās losing grid botsā selling of BTC and redirecting it later this week into a BTC Futures (Long) Martingale bot to make up for the mounting losses incurred since the March peak. I guess I could have [1] left all my BTC intact so that the losses would have been only drawdowns and then waited for their recovery later this year (just as Iād experienced throughout the summer with UNI), or [2] converted my BTC to stablecoin just after the March peak and then bought the dip (difficult to time) with that enormous lump sum, or [3] engaged in Futures short trading, either manually or via a bot (various options available), after that March peak.
I donāt know how Bitgetās Futures Martingale bot will turn out, but itās essentially just cyclical DCA, so itās not much different from the Dynamic DCA that youāre advocating here, other than that it involves leverage and take-profit targets. I suppose youād recommend the Spot Martingale to avoid the dangers of leverage, but I guess you have access to an actual Dynamic DCA platform that doesnāt take profits, simply building up contributions continually. My GoodCrypto app, which works fairly well, acts much like Bitgetās Spot Martingale bot, but Iām putting my hope in the potential of leveraging my BTC reinvestments, which GoodCrypto canāt do.
Note that Canadians donāt have access to Binance, Bybit, or Pionex (and so many other platforms), so I donāt know what DCA mechanisms they have, and Iāve never tried 3Commas or CryptoHopper for the more well-known bots.
Great video! Really like the idea of switching to dynamic DCA after halving. Question, how do you set up alerts for the risk bands in the cryptoverse app? Donāt see a setting for that.
Bro no such thing as November 31 go and check it and get back to me.
Can't predict the future, especially not using the past halvings. Why, because this time is different. The last halving was during Covid and funny money, gamestop, Robinhood and the world was going to die of a contagious disease. Previous halvings almost no adoption. Unless you have a crystal ball (Rob says he hasn't) then I'm going to keep dollar cost averaging.
Thanks for the update, I usually trade purely on technical analysis of BTC, ETH and ADA on the Fybit exchange, so I watch all news regarding coins
just buy the bottom, easy
Didn't realize Bear Cohen's subscription was so expensive!
Compound DCA bitcoin every year except the halving year
You said were going to DCA until BTC hits 85K
0:14: ā³ Analysis of dollar cost averaging strategies in past Bitcoin cycles post-halving.
2:48: āļø Comparison of Bitcoin and altcoins performance over time, emphasizing the importance of choosing the right altcoins.
6:32: āļø Altcoins show higher returns post Bitcoin halving, indicating diminishing ROI for Bitcoin.
8:27: ā³ Dynamic DCA strategy based on time and risk bands to optimize Bitcoin purchases.
11:50: š° Opting for Dynamic DCA instead of regular DCA post Bitcoin halving can significantly increase returns.
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Didn't you recently make a video saying you will stop DCA when Risk reaches .8 (88k or so) Did you change your mind are am I mistaken?
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thank you rob i just dca in and chill out hoping to dca out coz thats the hardest thing todo at the pico top